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Old 06-16-2017, 09:49 AM #41
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Puerto Rico bankrupted itself by having stupid liberal fiscal policies that chased off the businesses that provided the revenue.. no businesses or not enough and the liberal spending can't be sustained..



Explain how free markets and consumer choice and the right to start a business are bad things?
Sure PR bankrupted itself. America has/had no hand in their affairs. If America did have influence in PR, they would use said influence to look out for the best interests of PR's as they have done across Central and South America for the last century.

Thank you for distracting me from this terrible tragedy in Kensington.

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Old 06-16-2017, 09:51 AM #42
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That's not a strawman...


Capitalism is free markets, consumer choice and a right to start a business..


That is capitalism


So if you are against capitalism, explain how these are bad and affect society in a negative way?


Shouldn't be very hard since you are adamant that capitalism is bad
Yes it is. You said "Explain how free markets and consumer choice and the right to start a business are bad things?" but nobody has actually said those things are bad things.

"Shouldn't be very hard since you are adamant that capitalism is bad"

Oh look another strawman. I've not said capitalism is bad. Nor have I said socialism is great. There are good and bad points to each system. That is what I'm saying.
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Old 06-16-2017, 10:36 AM #43
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This is a well thought out post.
An untold amount of people burned alive last night because of corruption, inequality and greed and this is the narrative you are running with?

What the ***** is wrong with you?
What the fnck is wrong with me? what the fnuck is wrong with you seizing peoples private property's when hotel rooms can be rented and gyms can be used,should have expected that from an Arsenal supporter,no wonder Sanchez is leaving
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Old 06-16-2017, 10:49 AM #44
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Sure PR bankrupted itself. America has/had no hand in their affairs. If America did have influence in PR, they would use said influence to look out for the best interests of PR's as they have done across Central and South America for the last century.

Thank you for distracting me from this terrible tragedy in Kensington.

30 confirmed dead, 70+ missing
PR did bankrupt themselves... USA doesn't set their budgets or agendas or forces them to borrow.. doesn't have any influence on their tax policy..

PR tax policies forced companies to leave, which shrank the tax revenue, which caused PR to be 72 billion in debt.. America had nothing to do with that, neither did capitalism..

This was just a case of bad fiscal policy
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PR did bankrupt themselves... USA doesn't set their budgets or agendas or forces them to borrow.. doesn't have any influence on their tax policy..
It's always someone else's fault when socialism doesn't work.
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Old 06-16-2017, 10:56 AM #46
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Yes it is. You said "Explain how free markets and consumer choice and the right to start a business are bad things?" but nobody has actually said those things are bad things.

"Shouldn't be very hard since you are adamant that capitalism is bad"

Oh look another strawman. I've not said capitalism is bad. Nor have I said socialism is great. There are good and bad points to each system. That is what I'm saying.


You and adamjr have made it clear that you think capitalism is wrong.. capitalism is free markets, consumer choice, right to start a business, private property... that's what capitalism is..

So if you are against capitalism and think it has an adverse effect, then you are against these core principals.

So please explain how those are negative things in society?



It's like you say "I hate fruit" and then when I ask why don't you like apples, oranges and grapes,, you saying "strawman, Nobody is saying they don't like those"



I honestly don't think you guys have an actual grasp of capitalism and have been filled with left wing BS
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Old 06-16-2017, 11:16 AM #48
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You and adamjr have made it clear that you think capitalism is wrong.. capitalism is free markets, consumer choice, right to start a business, private property... that's what capitalism is..

So if you are against capitalism and think it has an adverse effect, then you are against these core principals.

So please explain how those are negative things in society?



It's like you say "I hate fruit" and then when I ask why don't you like apples, oranges and grapes,, you saying "strawman, Nobody is saying they don't like those"



I honestly don't think you guys have an actual grasp of capitalism and have been filled with left wing BS
Thanks for your kind definition of capitalism. I am in favour of those things. Hence why I've not said capitalism is wrong.

It does have an adverse effect. There is no think about it, but here is the kicker it is possible for me to say that it has an adverse effect in SOME ASPECTS. But just because I think capitalism has SOME bad points it doesn't mean I am a communist who thinks capitalism is totally wrong.

You need to stop thinking in such an us against them kinda mindset.

I won't explain how they are negative things because I don't think they are. I'm really not sure what you're arguing at this point.

You seem to be someone who sees things very black and white i.e if you don't love capitalism then you're a socialist.

There are good and bad aspects of each system and I favour a mixed system. I don't know how much plainer I can be.

At this point you're just arguing with yourself.

I don't think you know what a strawman is. Even your fruit analogy is a strawman because that isn't how our exchange went. So no it's not like me saying I hate fruit because I didn't say I hate capitalism.

Putting words in someone's mouth and arguing those words/deliberately misrepresenting someone's argument is a strawman. And that is what you're doing. Repeatedly

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I admit, I'm a sadistic f-cker and I would like to see Labour become the party in power and you guys have Corbyn as your prime minister.

If he does become PM, I want him to start confiscating private property and become the 2nd coming of Joseph Stalin. It would be one hell of a show!
Lmfao!!!

Let them Venezuela themselves and sit back laughing and telling them "See, I told ya so".

What's happening in Venezuela is a disgrace, but thats exactly what those idiots voted for for over a decade. They made their bed, now they gotta sleep in it.
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