Wilder fans were like 15m is a low ball, he made 7m for fury

[Chuckguy]

He was offered 40 percent recently lol and refused

Either way

Wilder was offered at that time 4 times his biggest pay day and refused

That was a fair offer

Wilder is keeping his belt hostage but will lose to fury and won’t get more than 5m next time to fight aj

The flat rate is bs and a duck by AJ and his team now 40% seems reasonable or they can negotiate like GGG did to get a few percentage points higher like 42 or 43. That seems like a duck by team wilder.

[JRB123]

No, I was referring to their upcoming rematch purses Doc. Both Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury have been rumored to earn upwards of more than $54mil for that bout. $39mil for Wilder and $25mil for Tyson respectively for their return May 18th bout in New York City.

The key word is "rumored".

They were rumored to get $10 million and $14 million. With the PPV numbers being 325,000 and the live gate below 4 million, it is doubtful that both fighters got $10 million off that fight.

For them to even come close to the amount, they would likely have to triple the revenue from PPV and gate sales.

[champion4ever]

The key word is "rumored".

They were rumored to get $10 million and $14 million. With the PPV numbers being 325,000 and the live gate below 4 million, it is doubtful that both fighters got $10 million off that fight.

For them to even come close to the amount, they would likely have to triple the revenue from PPV and gate sales.

Exactly and you are absolutely right. It is only a rumor and I was only reporting what I heard. It was never etched in stone that the two would ever earn as much for the rematch. It's all just mere speculation at this point.

[Scipio2009]

People don't even think AJ should be making 80% against Whyte and he already beat him.

How much do you think Whyte vs Wilder was worth at the time considering Whyte wasn't much of a draw an neither was Wilder?

Joshua versus Whyte is a super-grudge match, that is now so meaningful a fight in the UK that it was set for Wembley, remember? Dillian Whyte is this boogeyman that none of the Yanks want to fight, remember? Whyte earned a stupid amount of money for the Chisora2 fight, remember?

You make your bed, so you have to lay in it; Whyte's not worth 50% or anything, but he's been sold in the UK as this big factor and should be compensated accordingly.

Value is tricky, but there's enough around to make a good guess, imo.

The WBC Heavyweight champion taking on a Brit with a profile in the country would've done well on Sky Box Office; 500k-750k buys would be beyond a fair range to mark. The fight would've sold out O2 Arena too, at aggressive prices. And Showtime would've likely been willing to put up $2m-$3m to host the day/night airing of the fight in the US (DAZN puts up $10m, or at least double what Showtime can, to cover any anger about Hearn's weazel move). And then you have all of the other revenues.

Costs are whatever, and Hearn will take his 20% after costs, but there's an easy $15m, imo anyway, left for Wilder and Whyte to split.

[Scipio2009]

The key word is "rumored".

They were rumored to get $10 million and $14 million. With the PPV numbers being 325,000 and the live gate below 4 million, it is doubtful that both fighters got $10 million off that fight.

For them to even come close to the amount, they would likely have to triple the revenue from PPV and gate sales.

325000 buys, @$65/$75, generates $25m, the gate was over $3.5m, and we still have no idea what the fight did in the UK. And that's before you count the other revenues (ie Showtime selling the PPV digitally)

250k covered the event in the US, guarantees and all; whether there was an additional $15m cleared from everything else (75k on the lineal US PPV, $3m on the live event, however much digitally by Showtime, however much on UK PPV, etc) isn't some impossibility.

[JRB123]

325000 buys, @$65/$75, generates $25m, the gate was over $3.5m, and we still have no idea what the fight did in the UK. And that's before you count the other revenues (ie Showtime selling the PPV digitally)

250k covered the event in the US, guarantees and all; whether there was an additional $15m cleared from everything else (75k on the lineal US PPV, $3m on the live event, however much digitally by Showtime, however much on UK PPV, etc) isn't some impossibility.

Thing is that US PPV revenue is split between the network, cable providers, and the fighters. Showtime gets 10% off top, then the cable providers and the promoters split the other 90%.

Let’s say a fight is priced at $49.95, which for the sake of simplicity we are going to round up to $50. If it’s HBO PPV that is being used, HBO is not a party that is at risk as far as the fight itself is concerned but will take the 10% fee off the top ($5). The promoter and the cable companies both wind up with $22.50 per “sub” (or subscriber).

If a fight sells a million pay-per-view subscribers, HBO’s pay-per-view arm will get $5 million and the promoters will pocket $22,500,000. If that level of revenue, along with the other revenue streams (live gate or casino site fee, merchandising, international rights, etc.) did not meet what the promoter guaranteed the fighters, well, let’s just say that would be an unfortunate occurrence.

[Scipio2009]

Thing is that US PPV revenue is split between the network, cable providers, and the fighters. Showtime gets 10% off top, then the cable providers and the promoters split the other 90%.

Even if you split it in half, the promoter share on the US PPV was still ~$13m. On the more than $3.5m at the live gate, We can guess that they ended up clearing $2.5m. We still have no idea what the fight did in the UK, but even 250k PPV buys that'd generate $6.5m, split however the UK splits PPV. And then you have the PPVs that Showtime sold online (where they get their 10% as distributor, and 50/50 as operator). Then you have the live event sponsors, the rest of the international TV, merch, etc.

After paying all of the outside parties, the event easily cleared $20m, likely clearing $25m depending on what the fight actually did in the UK. With $10m covering the event, Wilder/Fury and their camps, should've easily had another $15m+ to split, on top of the $7m that they'd already been guaranteed.

Split that, like they split the guarantee and you end up with Fury and Frank splitting at least another $6.5m (80/20 Fury split and Tyson picks up another $5.25m to go with the $3m) with Wilder/DiBella/Haymon/Finkell splitting another $8.5m (on top of the $4m).

[Scipio2009]

Thing is that US PPV revenue is split between the network, cable providers, and the fighters. Showtime gets 10% off top, then the cable providers and the promoters split the other 90%.

Fight does 250k in the UK, Fury makes at least £6.2m while Wilder sees $12m (depending on the piece DiBella/Haymon/Finkell get). Every buy on BT Sport Box Office beyond 250k in the UK is ~$12.50 into the pot, with Wilder getting $7 and Fury getting $5.50/£4.50.

400k buys in the UK and Fury is well over £7m, with both guys in the eight-figure conversation.

[DARKSEID]

It's not about the guarantee, it's about the percentage.

If you know your worth as a fighter, you won't take a deal less than you're worth.

Boxing is a man's sport, and that's how you conduct yourself in every aspect of the game.

[GorillaDog]

AJ getting slave wages doe.