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Old 06-19-2018, 05:35 PM #21
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the 683 is okay itís not third highest of the year doe unless u are only comparing showtime.
I'm comparing it to Showtime. The networks have different sub levels so comparisons across networks are tough imo. The only clear "bad results" are the HBO cards that do low numbers b/c they're the only network that has completely live viewing numbers. ESPN (now) and Showtime are bifurcating views.
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Old 06-19-2018, 05:40 PM #22
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Saw Spence on ESPN... either this morning or yesterday?

The guys getting a big push for sure. Pretty cool.
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Old 06-19-2018, 05:43 PM #23
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Saw Spence on ESPN... either this morning or yesterday?

The guys getting a big push for sure. Pretty cool.
Saw that too. I think Dan Rafeal is low-key to thank for that (also put out an article today about Spence w/ the highlight reel. And had him on his ESPN+ show)

I'd imagine they'll start pumping him more because ESPN has a vested interest in making the Crawford v. Spence fight now. They have the inside track on a potentially $100 million dollar fight. Those execs aren't dumb.
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Old 06-19-2018, 05:45 PM #24
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I'm comparing it to Showtime. The networks have different sub levels so comparisons across networks are tough imo. The only clear "bad results" are the HBO cards that do low numbers b/c they're the only network that has completely live viewing numbers. ESPN (now) and Showtime are bifurcating views.
how did u guess the streaming Numbers?

I donít even go by the subscription numbers because if people are interested they subscribe and watch.

I put for Espn and if bowling is on I donít watch. It doesnít matter if Iím flipping through the channels. I will keep going.
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Old 06-19-2018, 05:55 PM #25
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Actually he likely hurt his peak audience with the fight ending so soon. Probably would've topped out over 800k if it would've been allowed to build up. There was a jump of over 200k viewers from the first fight to the main event. And another 50k from the lead-in fight. Probably would've gotten another 50k (or more) with a little more time.

You can't determine anything from a 3 minute period.
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Old 06-19-2018, 05:56 PM #26
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how did u guess the streaming Numbers?

I donít even go by the subscription numbers because if people are interested they subscribe and watch.

I put for Espn and if bowling is on I donít watch. It doesnít matter if Iím flipping through the channels. I will keep going.
I just take a ratio of average viewers for some of the premuim shows they offer like Billions or the Chi. Showtime averages like 300k viewers on the app during the live airing of Billions for example. So I assume that they're pulling 50-60% of that for a live airing of boxing.

Although that may sound generous, I noticed that the network expanded the boxing budget and number of live telecast, despite the live viewing numbers being somewhat flat (also promoted Espinosa to head of all sports content). Which tells me they're seeing increased returns on the investment in that content.

The last reported figure for Showtime app subs was 4 million people (in November of 2017). So when you think about it, pulling 150k-200k isn't all that crazy.
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:02 PM #27
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Suprising he got more than lsc-mares
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:22 PM #28
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That's really good considering the opponent. Spence might be behind Broner and Wilder as the PBC's biggest draws right now.
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:34 PM #29
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Any of these combinations would do great numbers for boxing: Spence/Thurman/Crawford against the Garcia vs Porter winner. Not sure where Thurman stands.
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:37 PM #30
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