What we know about Haymon pt. II summary

[bigdunny1]

There's a difference an axe to grind and a hired hitman going after the competition. Why doesn't Hauser write about HBO since he started working for them? Hauser was the one who used to tell us the inner workings of HBO boxing. He compromised himself when he allowed himself to be bought and whored out by HBO. He's a sell out.

Why didn't the guys who wrote the book on Bonds go after Yankee players or other baseball players who were roiding? And does any of that make their claims about Bonds being on steroids any less valid? Again I don't give a rats az z about Hauser or his motive only care if what he is reporting is accurate.

[about.thousands]

Yet when those reporters started exposing Bonds never did they disclose their numerous negative run ins with Bonds. Something the Bonds team used against them when the accusations came out. And I could care less if they add a footnote at the bottom stating their ties hell ESPN has had people yell that they need to add footnotes explaining the ties they have business ties specifically and they still refuse to do so. So how is it journalism 101 when ESPN the biggest sports media provider DOES not disclose when they speak on many issues that others question their agenda. Fact is ESPN has numerous business relationships and never state them for readers in their articles that may or may not influence the agenda of that article. If you need that 1 line to make you feel better or Iole feel better that's on you. My issue is the content and not trying to bash the messenger. Again just look back the last few decades and almost every big sports scandal was exposed by someone that was accused of being bias/skewed/having an agenda ect. Haymon fanboys pulling that card out just in case there is a bomb shell or something negative against Haymon that is released this week. If something Hauser publishes is not true then people will poke holes in it and he will get sued it's really that simple. But to dismiss what he says because you think he has an axe to grind is the same defense Bonds, Armstrong, and many others used as they were rightfully being exposed.

Like the issue with Lamon Brewster. He went to a Sports Illustrated reporter for the facts on the case but didn't ask Brewster himself. He didn't even reach out to Brewster (he didn't state in the article he attempted to reach Brewster). I did an interview with slate.com that's running in April. She had to attempt to get an opposing view from the people I was talking about. They declined to be interviewed. She will put in the article that she attempted to reach them and they had no comment on what I said but they released a statement. It's basic journalism 101.

[Sweet Jones]

Why didn't the guys who wrote the book on Bonds go after Yankee players or other baseball players who were roiding? And does any of that make their claims about Bonds being on steroids any less valid? Again I don't give a rats az z about Hauser or his motive only care if what he is reporting is accurate.

The book you keep referencing EXPLICITLY mentioned other baseball players impacted by the BALCO scandal, including Giambi and Gary Sheffield.

So, WTF are you talking about?

[b00g13man]

That little matter of disclosing you’re a paid HBO Sports consultant ... - If you’ve been a boxing fan for... https://t.co/Z0REcbVtRq

— Kevin Iole (@KevinI) March 22, 2016

Dope. Good to see one of his peers call him out.

[bigdunny1]

The book you keep referencing EXPLICITLY mentioned other baseball players impacted by the BALCO scandal, including Giambi and Gary Sheffield.

So, WTF are you talking about?

Either you are too young or you have no clue what I'm talking about the book finally came OUT YEARS after multiple players got busted. But the reporters were making accusations and writing that book for years long before that and it centered on Barry Bonds. They later added other baseball players to their reporting but initial investigation centered around Bonds the bulk of the info they exposed were on Bonds. They were accusing bonds of roids long before BALCO and players got busted. The book officially came out years after the Steroid bubble burst and players were busted. But before all that people were accused them of lying and making up stories just because they had an axe to grind with Bonds and Bonds and his team painted them as just having a vendetta and not creditable sources. They were basically all vindicated for their work. So whether the initial investigation was a result of them having a grudge against Bonds is irrelevant what they reported was true. Idiots saying nothing Hauser can say is important because he's a consultant with HBO

[IMDAZED]

Either you are too young or you have no clue what I'm talking about the book finally came OUT YEARS after multiple players got busted. But the reporters were making accusations and writing that book for years long before that and it centered on Barry Bonds. They later added other baseball players to their reporting but initial investigation centered around Bonds the bulk of the info they exposed were on Bonds. They were accusing bonds of roids long before BALCO and players got busted. The book officially came out years after the Steroid bubble burst and players were busted. But before all that people were accused them of lying and making up stories just because they had an axe to grind with Bonds and Bonds and his team painted them as just having a vendetta and not creditable sources. They were basically all vindicated for their work. So whether the initial investigation was a result of them having a grudge against Bonds is irrelevant what they reported was true. Idiots saying nothing Hauser can say is important because he's a consultant with HBO

No, that's false. It started with other players before Bonds (Jose Canseco, for instance). Then McGwire and Sosa. Then Bonds.

[Sweet Jones]

Either you are too young or you have no clue what I'm talking about the book finally came OUT YEARS after multiple players got busted. But the reporters were making accusations and writing that book for years long before that and it centered on Barry Bonds. They later added other baseball players to their reporting but initial investigation centered around Bonds the bulk of the info they exposed were on Bonds. They were accusing bonds of roids long before BALCO and players got busted. The book officially came out years after the Steroid bubble burst and players were busted. But before all that people were accused them of lying and making up stories just because they had an axe to grind with Bonds and Bonds and his team painted them as just having a vendetta and not creditable sources. They were basically all vindicated for their work. So whether the initial investigation was a result of them having a grudge against Bonds is irrelevant what they reported was true. Idiots saying nothing Hauser can say is important because he's a consultant with HBO

The guys who wrote the book didn't just limit their scope or investigations into Bonds. Fainaru-Wada and Williams wrote AND reported about ALL the info they found out from the BACLO investigation, including names they got from boxing (Moseley), track and field (Marion Jones) and the NFL.

Hauser is doing is the opposite. He's writing targeted pieces (Haymon; Mayweather) that seems to line up also perfectly with the known 'rivals' of his benefactor (HBO). His employment is directly impacting the scope of his reporting.

Hauser is not 'investigating'. He's hiding behind 'investigating' to fish and speculate against those who he, or better yet who his employer, appears to dislike.

To claim to not understand this is asinine.