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  • #71
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
    Who gives the f.uck if Americans accept AJ or not? America is quite irrelevant in heavyweight division.
    That's why the HW division has been doing so poorly. Joshua and Wilder can turn that around if they decide to fight.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Throwingbombs View Post
      Its basically AJ saying to Wilder you need to earn your shot. Why should Wilder get a payday when he has not earned the right, as Hearn said 'who you beat boy? Who you beat?'. Wilder needs to beat the bodysnatcher to prove he is legit and build the fight but he is too *****. With the bodysnatcher soon to be be mandatory Wilder cant run forever!
      Why should AJ give ANOTHER TITLE HOLDER a shot? Are you serious? I didn't know Undefeated World Champions had to earn the right to put their belt up against another undefeated World Champion. I thought it was a no brainier but meh, I ain't shyt. *Shrug*

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Ray* View Post
        He doesn't need to be accepted in America. He already generate more money than he would ever make in america, Holyfield/Tyson would make more money for him but those days are over.

        The biggest name in america isn't even the HW anymore and the only name worth mentioing is Wilder (Who is relatively unknown in america).

        The Klits were able to stay in Germany because their era didn't have the big name americans on show. Am all for going to america but thats if the money is there, Why would he leave the UK to fight in america for less? Back in the days i was one of those who encourage Hatton to leave the UK and fight in america because the money was better and the competition was there.

        Now the competition in america is thin and terrible.
        Those are all fair points. However, I think a fight between Joshua and Wilder will be huge if they both keep winning. You get a trilogy between those two and you could be looking at Tyson/Holyfield type money. Joshua doesn't need to come here for the money but the recognition by an American audience and media wouldn't hurt.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Deontay Wilder View Post
          Anthony ain't never in no rush, period.

          Takes him two minutes to dribble a basketball across a court.
          ... why don't "you" go there, in the UK, instead???

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
            Yeah but being a known commodity in the US would put him on a different stratosphere in terms of getting endorsments and sponsors. He will also be able to command bigger purses from US TV.

            The long term gains outweigh the short term losses imo.
            fighting in vegas means losing roughly 60,000 people + from the live gate.. that dividend wont be made up by US TV because Haymon will negotiate a bitg old slice for wilder minus the taxes and exchange rates.

            endorsements wise.. he is currently the face of under armour, audemars piguet, lucozade, Jaguar / Land rover plus about 20 more..

            he simply doesnt need to fight in the US as of yet, and quite frankly the "validation" it supposedly carries means nothing because US boxing on TV is on its arse right now.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by KING5TWENTY View Post
              Aj has always looked at Wilder like hes at an elite level he hasnt reached yet
              It's like a lil bro looking up to big bro.

              He might've whooped his old uncle (Wlad) but he knows that big bro can fight.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Deontay Wilder View Post
                It's like a lil bro looking up to big bro.

                He might've whooped his old uncle (Wlad) but he knows that big bro is a whole different level.
                you mean the old uncle that wilder and his team ducked willingly and admitted he that he wasn't ready for? riiiiiiiiight

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by yammy25 View Post
                  fighting in vegas means losing roughly 60,000 people + from the live gate.. that dividend wont be made up by US TV because Haymon will negotiate a bitg old slice for wilder minus the taxes and exchange rates.

                  endorsements wise.. he is currently the face of under armour, audemars piguet, lucozade, Jaguar / Land rover plus about 20 more..

                  he simply doesnt need to fight in the US as of yet, and quite frankly the "validation" it supposedly carries means nothing because US boxing on TV is on its arse right now.
                  Well if he is fighting in Vegas then you looking at a massive fee paid by the Casino to host the event. There is a reason that all big US fights are held there and not in the big sports arenas. You can also charge higher price per seat. Canelo vs GGG and Mayweather vs Pac are the two biggest gates in boxing history (iirc) and both were held in Vegas casinos.

                  Yeah he is already a big sponsor magnet in the UK. He would get much more money if he was a star in the US as well. These companies want exposure, if AJ gets them exposure in the UK (70mill or so pop), then great, if he was a big name in the US (300+mill pop), then even better. AJ is quickly becoming a global star from the comfort of fighting in the UK, and that is great, but the US has always been an insular country. If you arent over there making yourself known, then they are going to pay that much attention.

                  Also, Hearn is looking to expand into the US market, what better way to properly announce himself and get his brand exposure than to host the biggest HW fight in the world?

                  The long term benefits to taking AJ to America for this fight, outweigh the short term loss in profits imo. He wont get the same exposure if he goes over there to fight some bum mandatory in a showcase.

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                  • #79
                    Hes just fine in the UK, B side wilder must come over if he wants the fight so bad.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by harwri008 View Post
                      Those are all fair points. However, I think a fight between Joshua and Wilder will be huge if they both keep winning. You get a trilogy between those two and you could be looking at Tyson/Holyfield type money. Joshua doesn't need to come here for the money but the recognition by an American audience and media wouldn't hurt.
                      From interviews I've read from his team its not so much the fighting in America that they want its the endorsements, but of course with one comes the other.

                      People saying he doesn't need to go the US, he'll make more money off gate receipts and PPV in the UK is being short-sided. He's said he wants to be a boxing billionaire, people assumed in threads on here he thought hed be selling as many PPV's as Mayweather. Don't think that was the case, no one will ever match Mayweather there. He was talking about endorsements, which is the real goldmine, wants that Tiger Woods cash.

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