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Old 09-20-2019, 01:29 AM #171
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Great post, rare thing on NSB these days. Green K.

The only thing for me is Kovalev is still an excellent boxer, especially in his haydays. Besides Loma, he's the only Eastern Euro I'm sold on now. Kovalev deteriorated some, but he's still a force.
He acted like a coward for faking low blows against legit body shots from Ward. Like Ward, Canelo is a bodysnatcher.

He won't win this one given Canelo's built, skills, wide open level symmetry to the body of Kovalev, and chin.

I'm still a Krusher fan, tho.

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Thanks bro. Iím a bigger fan of Krusher now after seeing him avenge against Alvarez and get through Yarde with a stoppage. I had him beating Ward in the first fight. I think Ward just got too much credit for getting up and sticking it out. It played to peoples sentiments. It was like Ward won a point for getting off the floor while Kovalev lost a point for not being able to finish him off. Sometimes an underdog will hold his own in a round and will get the point because thatís considered overachieving. While the favourite will be looked at as having a bad round considering expectations. But what do I know? Often the favourite wins much wider than they should. I know Canelo is the straw that stirs the drink, dude got sum stroke vs Mayweather even. Still at sum point things will shift and Canelo will get punished for not dominating. Okay that may never happen lol My brother picked Kovalev so Iím all in on The big red machine making a huge statement.
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:39 AM #172
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Great. Get lost. Keep reading the fake press that makes you P4P when you couldn't beat a aging slow prodding champ without some help from the judges.
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:52 AM #173
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Thanks bro. Iím a bigger fan of Krusher now after seeing him avenge against Alvarez and get through Yarde with a stoppage. I had him beating Ward in the first fight. I think Ward just got too much credit for getting up and sticking it out. It played to peoples sentiments. It was like Ward won a point for getting off the floor while Kovalev lost a point for not being able to finish him off. Sometimes an underdog will hold his own in a round and will get the point because thatís considered overachieving. While the favourite will be looked at as having a bad round considering expectations. But what do I know? Often the favourite wins much wider than they should. I know Canelo is the straw that stirs the drink, dude got sum stroke vs Mayweather even. Still at sum point things will shift and Canelo will get punished for not dominating. Okay that may never happen lol My brother picked Kovalev so Iím all in on The big red machine making a huge statement.
Good post, again. I wouldn't be disappointed at all if Kovalev won. I like him too.

I should have added Usyk (my boy) when I was talking about Eastern Euros I was sold on. This guy really has nothing to prove to me. I was sold from day one. The rest of his heavyweight adventure, to me, is extra.
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:09 AM #174
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It's all physics. Canelo's body punches almost paralyzed some of his opponents. Against Kovalev, he'll commit to that. It's the whole gameplan, even Kovalev knows about it. He better tighten his body defense.

Canelo is the second best body puncher in boxing, after Davis.
Naoya is better and more devastating than both.
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:14 AM #175
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Naoya is better and more devastating than both.
Naoya, another one of my homies, I'll give him spot 4.

Best body punchers in boxing:

1. Davis
2. Canelo
3. Spence
4. Inoue
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:34 AM #176
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:39 AM #177
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and has gotten 0 credit i dont blame him
He gets 0 credit because he lost the first fight (arguably) and although he won the second by razor thin margins he refused to give ggg and us fan's a third fight he knows ggg came on strong in the championship rounds and nearly took nelos head off. He was pushed to his limits by a 37 year old past prime fighter.
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:52 AM #178
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Yeah it will be interesting I suppose...just pretty clear to me that DAZN signed Canelo and GGG, with the intention of using that fight between them to recoup a lot of money, and get a lot of attention to their app...I just imagine they are disappointed greatly with Canelo not wanting to face GGG at this point.

AJ's earning power has diminished, I agree...and Wilder seems beholden to his current group, though to be fair I don't think he brings in any real money, not more than even someone like GGG.

But as you alluded to, the only guy who really brings in money is Canelo, so he will have some rope...I just would think with all that money they are paying him, and with their pretty clear desire to have him fight GGG, I can't imagine them feeding Canelo $30 per fight...he probably only deserves that amount for 1 fight right now, and that is vs GGG.
Canelo's $35m is basically what he would earn as a 1m PPV buys fighter (plus a premium for disregarding upside going forward).

No different than when Showtime/CBS basically guaranteed Floyd his take on 6 1m PPV buys events to come over (while not cutting him out of ant upside).

Because $35m per fight was the cost to DAZN for Canelo to give up his US TV rights (and the rights in the other countries where DAZN is, though I know he keeps his Mexican TV rights).

Canelo didn't come begging, so DAZN expecting that to be enough to dictate to Canelo was a mistake
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:09 AM #179
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Good post, again. I wouldn't be disappointed at all if Kovalev won. I like him too.

I should have added Usyk (my boy) when I was talking about Eastern Euros I was sold on. This guy really has nothing to prove to me. I was sold from day one. The rest of his heavyweight adventure, to me, is extra.
Right. ( sorry if keeping on replying to ur posts is lame to sum, but like u said this forum is full threads of people cursing eachother out. Were all boxing fans.) I watched Usyk vs Bellew again today. I canít say I saw much of his early career, but that shot on bellew was nasty. He took his time. Fight went longer than I remembered though. I saw him unify too. I also rewatched Wilder vs Breazele too. Iím sure Usyk weighs the same in ring as Wilder does but thereís nothing like Wilders punch. Usyk is a tall cruiser but heís not a tower at HW. I canít wait for him to step it up. If he keeps winning it will be from ring IQ. If thereís one thing about euro fighters that concerns me is that they tend to pull straight back. Im itching for his next fight to analyze him more.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:41 AM #180
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Let's keep this in perspective. Canelo can't fight every pretender at once. His contract calls for 9 more fights or so with DAZN fighting two or three times a year. This drama will play out over a 4 year period. Unlike Golovkin, he is fighting tough competition. Most of the so-called "Canelo Killers" will get their turn. In the meantime, some of them can at least fight each other -- Andrade vs Charlo for example.
Andrade doesn't bring enough money to make the fight on DAZN, Charlo isn't going to DAZN to fight in front of 50k subscribers, and DAZN won't let Andrade fight off of DAZN either.

Canelo has Kovalev as fight #2, likely Andrade as #3 if he wins, likely Charlo and Saunders as #4 and #5.

Then he hits a patch, but there's still Munguia and Zurdo Ramirez to fight (will see how they develop), and a viable fight with Errol Spence Jr (if he made his choice).

Golovkin could be wait for a while, lol
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