Trumps lawyer gets three years in prison!

[1bad65]

how is using your own personal money breaking campaign finance laws?

supposedly thats what was used and since no campaign money was used etc there was no finance laws to break

and it would have to be direct of trump ORDERING him to use CAMPAIGN MONEY for that issue etc

his "word" isnt evidence hes gonna need physical proof to corroborate it

Though he's technically correct in that Cohen plead Guilty to campaign finance laws, that in no way means he broke them.

Remember, the Big Dunning-Kruger is a huge Gotcha! player (though completely clueless on the big picture, actual issues, policy, etc).

Interestingly enough, Mueller's head prosecutor has been nailed for getting people to plead Guilty to crimes they not only did not commit, but to 'crimes' that arent even actual crimes!!!


Mr. [Christopher] Wray specifically lauded Andrew Weissmann for obtaining convictions against two Enron clients: accounting giant Arthur Andersen and executives at banking dynamo Merrill Lynch.

Today, Mr. [Andrew] Weissmann stands as special counsel Robert Mueller’s top gun in a squadron of nearly 20 prosecutors and scores of FBI agents delving into Trump-Russia. Mr. Weissmann is leading the probe into the biggest target to date, Paul Manafort, President Trump’s onetime campaign manager.

How Mr. Weissmann operated over a decade ago offers possible glimpses at how he carries out orders today from his longtime mentor, Mr. Mueller.

By the time he left in 2005, he had rung up some impressive numbers, such as 22 guilty pleas and millions of dollars in restitution. But he also suffered historic courtroom losses. And how he won and how he lost is still the subject of bitter comments from his adversaries in Houston.

The backstory: Defense attorneys say Mr. Weissmann bent or broke the rules. As proof, they point to appeals court decisions, exhibits and witness statements.

They say he intimidated witnesses by threatening indictments, created crimes that did not exist and, in one case, withheld evidence that could have aided the accused. At one hearing, an incredulous district court judge looked down at an Enron defendant and told him he was pleading guilty to a wire fraud crime that did not exist.

“Weissmann seemed more interested in obtaining convictions than in promoting justice,” said Tom Kirkendall, a Houston lawyer who represented an Enron executive.

Those convictions for which Mr. Wray offered praise in 2004?

Mr. Weissmann’s cases against Andersen and Merrill Lynch lay in shambles just a few years later.

The Supreme Court, in a 9-0 vote in 2005, overturned the Andersen conviction. A year later, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals erased all the fraud convictions against four Merrill Lynch managers. The jury had acquitted another defendant.

“People went off to prison for a completely phantom of a case,” said Mr. Kirkendall.

Source, full story:
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...prosecutor-kn/


I've actually posted this story here several times. As we saw graphically illustrated the last few days, the superfan side of the debate isnt bothering to even read source citations from the other side.

And that's why they keep spewing the same worn out talking points and refuted 'facts' over and over again.

NPCs will be NPCs.

[bigjavi973]

Though he's technically correct in that Cohen plead Guilty to campaign finance laws, that in no way means he broke them.

Remember, the Big Dunning-Kruger is a huge Gotcha! player (though completely clueless on the big picture, actual issues, policy, etc).

Interestingly enough, Mueller's head prosecutor has been nailed for getting people to plead Guilty to crimes they not only did not commit, but to 'crimes' that arent even actual crimes!!!


Mr. [Christopher] Wray specifically lauded Andrew Weissmann for obtaining convictions against two Enron clients: accounting giant Arthur Andersen and executives at banking dynamo Merrill Lynch.

Today, Mr. [Andrew] Weissmann stands as special counsel Robert Mueller’s top gun in a squadron of nearly 20 prosecutors and scores of FBI agents delving into Trump-Russia. Mr. Weissmann is leading the probe into the biggest target to date, Paul Manafort, President Trump’s onetime campaign manager.

How Mr. Weissmann operated over a decade ago offers possible glimpses at how he carries out orders today from his longtime mentor, Mr. Mueller.

By the time he left in 2005, he had rung up some impressive numbers, such as 22 guilty pleas and millions of dollars in restitution. But he also suffered historic courtroom losses. And how he won and how he lost is still the subject of bitter comments from his adversaries in Houston.

The backstory: Defense attorneys say Mr. Weissmann bent or broke the rules. As proof, they point to appeals court decisions, exhibits and witness statements.

They say he intimidated witnesses by threatening indictments, created crimes that did not exist and, in one case, withheld evidence that could have aided the accused. At one hearing, an incredulous district court judge looked down at an Enron defendant and told him he was pleading guilty to a wire fraud crime that did not exist.

“Weissmann seemed more interested in obtaining convictions than in promoting justice,” said Tom Kirkendall, a Houston lawyer who represented an Enron executive.

Those convictions for which Mr. Wray offered praise in 2004?

Mr. Weissmann’s cases against Andersen and Merrill Lynch lay in shambles just a few years later.

The Supreme Court, in a 9-0 vote in 2005, overturned the Andersen conviction. A year later, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals erased all the fraud convictions against four Merrill Lynch managers. The jury had acquitted another defendant.

“People went off to prison for a completely phantom of a case,” said Mr. Kirkendall.

Source, full story:
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...prosecutor-kn/


I've actually posted this story here several times. As we saw graphically illustrated the last few days, the superfan side of the debate isnt bothering to even read source citations from the other side.

And that's why they keep spewing the same worn out talking points and refuted 'facts' over and over again.

NPCs will be NPCs.

yea I remember that

[Vlad_]

Good. The rat got what he deserved. Lmao claiming to doing “evil deeds” for Trump. Because paying off some hoe to keep her mouth shut is so evil. If the moron decided to use campaign funds instead of Trump’s bank account that’s his problem.

Lmao at Cohen trying to blame Trump when he doesn’t even pay his own taxes and does financial fraud.

He can enjoy his three years behind bars.

[The Big Dunn]

yea no thats your job to slurp up hillary and friends.....

again thats whats being said/what I read on multiple news sources... only ones not saying it are of course cnn and msnbc and of course that doesnt surprise me

also, hes a LAWYER, if trump, HIS CLIENT, tells him to do something illegal as a LAWYER hes NOT SUPPOSED TO no matter what



did trump somehow force him to use campaign money or was he told to use trumps personal money?

I didn't vote for Hilary or her friends.

I don't know what Trump said or did. Mueller will tell us all eventually. Relax, don't rush it.

[AddiX]

Everyone around trump is a criminal just like him.

Imagine how many years trump and his family are going to get, those scumbags been laundering money for years through their scummy hotels.

[PACnPBFsuck]

The moral of the story is, pay your goddamn taxes.

[1bad65]

yea I remember that

Because you arent a blind superfan.

Another thing to consider.....

It appears that the reason prosecutors asked for a stiff sentence was they said Cohen had overstated what he knew and could provide, and wasn't telling them what they wanted to hear.

Yet we heard all the D superfans crowing on here telling us how Cohen was singing like a canary and how Trump was toast.

Lmfao!!!!


Also, Cohen made a deal with Mueller, and he still got years in prison.

Do you superfans really think future witnesses are going to plead Guilty to Gotcha! crimes knowing that Mueller will still demand years in prison if the witness cant give him the dirt on Trump he craves, regardless if it's truthful or not??

Mueller is angry and desperate, and his tactics show it.

And if we had a real lawyer here worth his salt, he'd be saying the same thing.

[1bad65]

The moral of the story is, pay your goddamn taxes if you're a Republican.

Fixed that for ya!

Al Sharpton dodged more taxes than Cohen, and yet he never spent a day in prison.

But Sharpton is on Team D, and with that comes alot of perks.

[BERNIE'S CORNER]

[AddiX]

Both national enquirer and Cohen have both told prosecutors that they paid 150k to pay off woman for Donald Trump to help his presidential election bid.

That's checkmate....

Lmao remember when republicans would talk about "family values" with a straight face....