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Old 02-01-2019, 09:06 AM #11
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Canelo took the Mayweather fight because Mayweather presented it to him and when the biggest name in the sport gives you a opportunity, you take it, If not you don’t know if or when you’ll get another shot at the man, You don’t say let me gain a couple more years of experience . Canelo believes he’s a ATG so even though he was young he believed that he’d beat a smaller 36 year old Mayweather.

The Canelo fought him too young thing is such a cop out. Many ATG fighters fought the so called man at a early age and won. Canelo just wasn’t or never would be good enough to beat Mayweather

With the Golovkin fight Canelo was now the cash cow of the sport and in the drivers seat , while there’s no doubt Canelo would have fought Golovkin right away his team made the decision for him to wait a couple years and let Golovkin age like every fighter does and show signs of slippage before making the fight because he was such a dangerous opponent, which they could do since Canelo was A side and only getting better with age and reaching his prime . After the Brook and Jacobs fight they believed Golovkin had aged enough and give Canelo his best chance to win so they made the fight.

Being the A side allows you to dictate when the fight gets made and make it the A sides advantage. It’s part of the sport

I like most people Still think even though Canelos team waited to get a advantage he still lost both fights. But Canelo gets scored differently from everyone else always to his advantage so you know he got a undeserved Draw and a undeserved Win
When Floyd was young he was able to compete with the best period. Just cuz Nelo couldn't compete with Floyd does not mean he was too young period. There is zero shame in losing to T.B.E.

As for golovkin, the fight with Nelo & him started in 2015 & in 2016 Oscar offered golovkin the fight but he said no cuz he wanted more money. A year after that the fight was made in 2017. The golovkin got "old" excuse started when he stepped up the competition & as we saw he failed. He was the product of the media. Jacobs, Nelo & Nelo again, hence Triple L.

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Old 02-01-2019, 09:10 AM #12
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Because to get Floyd to agree to fight is hard at best of times.
Nel o wasn't in prime and not at best with cw, but I'm sure he thought he could beat floyd.
When your young your fearless. But he'd beat floyd now if Floyd was 36 and Nell 29.

Ggg would have beat Nell easier if they'd have fought 2 years earlier. Ggg has slowed visibly
T.B.E. would beat Nelo at 36 while Nelo is 29. T.B.E. & Nelo would beat Triple L anytime period. Cut your hate for The Best Ever.
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Old 02-01-2019, 09:19 AM #13
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Why do people make it seem like Floyd was preying on a YOUNG canelo?

If anyone was on here at the time or watching boxing Floyd was being pressured hard to fight canelo now that manny had just got knocked out cold by Marquez(Who was roided up) so they needed a new boogey man for Floyd.

Plus canelo was begging for the fight and damn near had the same amount of fights as mayweather.
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Old 02-01-2019, 09:49 AM #14
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It's hilarious watching Floyd haters change their minds about what determines whether or not a fighter is in his prime. One minute it's an arbritary age, the next minute it's a random number of friends fights.

Anyway... Floyd didn't just beat Canelo, he dominated him. Floyd stood in front of the albino ginger and backed him up. Easily one of Floyd's most dominant performances. Nelo fanboys who want to portray that fight as wily veteran picking on a greenhorn are full of ****. Even though Floyd was 36 and past it, he proved there is a significant gap in skill between him a Canelo. A gap that Canelo will never close, even as time passes and Floyd gets older.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:13 AM #15
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Because nobody is afraid to fight Floyd, an older Floyd anyway. All that's going to happen is you get schooled and get well paid. You won't take a lot of punishment and there's no shame in the loss because he beat everyone.


GGG was a different prospect. Take that fight too soon and you might end up taking a beating. Canelo or Golden Boy never wanted that fight until GGG showed signs of ageing and arguably still lost both fights, definitely the first. So they were right to wait another year or two.

Anyway, Canelo wasn't even that young when he fought Floyd, he was about 22 i think and had defended his WBC title a load of times and was in all p4p lists. Everyone was saying Floyd would never fight him. Now people make out that Floyd fought a prospect.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:45 AM #16
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did GB see GGG back then as too big a threat then?
if so, why take the floyd fight though?

or did ggg "need to build his profile more" excuse?

i had GGG winning both fights, so what would of happened if they fought a few years earlier?
the biggest robbery of ALL TIME??
No the better question is who would win if they were both 15, 21, 23, 27 or 29???? I think Canelo wins! Keep in mind GGG at 27 was still bullying 15 year olds at the ametures
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:02 AM #17
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Because nobody is afraid to fight Floyd, an older Floyd anyway. All that's going to happen is you get schooled and get well paid. You won't take a lot of punishment and there's no shame in the loss because he beat everyone.

GGG was a different prospect. Take that fight too soon and you might end up taking a beating. Canelo or Golden Boy never wanted that fight until GGG showed signs of ageing and arguably still lost both fights, definitely the first. So they were right to wait another year or two.

Anyway, Canelo wasn't even that young when he fought Floyd, he was about 22 i think and had defended his WBC title a load of times and was in all p4p lists. Everyone was saying Floyd would never fight him. Now people make out that Floyd fought a prospect.
There were zero signs of aging. As soon as he fought a good fighter his whole pro career which was Jacobs, Jacobs made him look normal & the excuse "he's old" began cuz they know Jacobs beat him. Then he fought Nelo & the excuse was said again cuz they know in their hearts he lost to Nelo (twice) & AFTER fighting the ONLY two good fighters he has ever fought he then goes back to fighting a low leveled fighter like vanes & looks like a monster again, it was the competition not the age.
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:06 AM #18
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you do know Floyd was 36 when Canelo fought him right?
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:08 AM #19
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Because to get Floyd to agree to fight is hard at best of times.
Nel o wasn't in prime and not at best with cw, but I'm sure he thought he could beat floyd.
When your young your fearless. But he'd beat floyd now if Floyd was 36 and Nell 29.

Ggg would have beat Nell easier if they'd have fought 2 years earlier. Ggg has slowed visibly
based on what??? he is fighting at 160 and 168..you think he could beat the same floyd at 154??? makes 0 sense
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Simple fact is Floyd is a certified ATG and GGG is nowhere close to it..not sure why they are even mentioned in the same sentence
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