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Old 01-30-2019, 03:32 PM #1
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How does this go down? Who wins, who flops, who beats who etc....
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:38 PM #2
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Assuming they are all prime I would seed it like this:
Opening round

6. Benn
3. Bhop

4. Roy
5. Canelo

Bhop beats benn by UD (8-4) and fights 2 ward. Roy annihilates Canelo (late stoppage) fights #1 Calzaghe.

Ward beats Bhop by UD (8-4). Roy beats Calzaghe by UD (10-2).

Ward and Roy fight and Roy wins in an 8-4 UD.
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Prime Roy batters them all
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Ranked I would say #1. Jones, #2. Hopkins, #3. Ward, #4. Calzaghe, #5 Canelo, #6. Benn

Jones beats Benn
Hopkins beats Canelo
Ward beats Calzaghe
Jones beats Ward
Hopkins beats Ward
Jones beats Hopkins by a close Majority Decision assuming that they were both fighting each other in their absolute primes which was around 98' or 99'.
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All primes ranked like this:
1. RJJ
2. B Hop
3. Ward
4. Calzaghe
5. Canelo
6. Benn

Tourney goes like this, Ward stops Benn, Calzaghe decisions Canelo. RJJ KOs Calzaghe. BHop decisions Ward. RJJ decisions BHop.
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I've always seen Ward as kind of a slightly lesser version of Hopkins. Both extremely intelligent, with good hand speed and counter punching abilities but Hopkins is just a little better at everything that Ward does.
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How does this go down? Who wins, who flops, who beats who etc....
Prime Roy pretty easily IMO.

Very good list other than Canelo, though
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:48 PM #8
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Canelo beats Benn imo and loses to Calzaghe in a close fight.
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If it's prime against prime I think Jones beats everyone and Hopkins comes in 2nd. Joe comes in third. Canelo not a 168 pounder but he is very good so I think he or Benn come in 4th and Ward flops when he can't fight dirty. I know Joe beat both Jones and Hopkins but he was much closer to prime than they were when the fought him.
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Roy Jones is the greatest of the bunch and he'd beat them all in his prime. Some people have let shot Roy Jones skew their view on him and some just gave up on him because he was no longer p4p #1.He was an incredible fighter in his prime so good he could likely do what he wanted against even elite opponents.

I think Hopkins' career would rate 2nd best of those but I think him and Calzaghe (who's the 3rd greatest of the bunch) at 168 is very close. I didn't feel their fight at 175 was that close and it surprised me Hopkins wanted to quit - that wasn't prime Calzaghe either and Hopkins went on to score some of his greatest wins AFTER it and two immediately prior. I probably lean towards Joe on a close one there. I think

For Ward it depends. If he had to go on the road or face Jones, for example, I doubt he's afforded the same breaks and allowed the same tactics. If Benn is in the U.K then it's a 50/50 that's a hard one to call. I think both at 168 is a step a little too far to Canelo. Canelo would be shut out by Hopkins and Calzaghe and stopped after being toyed with by Jones. Ward would make it ugly for Hopkins, Jones and Calzaghe but not that close to beating any of them.

I view it as being (based on head-to-head)

Jones

Hopkins/Calzaghe

Ward

Benn
Canelo

Jones beats Calzaghe and Hopkins in 8-4 type fights.
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