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Old 02-20-2019, 12:51 PM #11
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u'd be first to suggest standing and trading with mike tyson for 12 rounds.
Amazingly enough, for reasons only Einstein can explain, trading with Tyson for 12 rounds inevitably turned into trading with Tyson for 30 seconds...
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:14 PM #12
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- -billy doing a good job here.

Tucker natural attributes in the top 1%. His pop ran off with the Tyson proceeds, and that family betrayal left him in a mental mess easily manipulated by his new daddy, DKing.
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:26 PM #13
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I seem to recall Tucker had a broken hand before the Tyson fight. Not making excuses, though.
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:47 PM #14
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I don’t find many who say he did not fight some good fighters. The issue with Tyson was he never showed intestinal fortitude. In a losing fight he typically lost and went out with a whimper. This is the reason he us not rated higher than he is. Give Tyson Frazier’s drive, heart and will to win at all cost and you would have a top two ATG.
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Old 02-20-2019, 11:07 PM #15
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Curtis! Curtis! Tucker fought well, he mixed it up made sure he did not get clocked inside and hit with some good punches in combo. Tucker was a heckofa fighter and he fought well. Tyson was trying to get under him for an uppercut inside.

Tyson was not going to give Tony the room to use his reach and Tucker did not have a big enough punch to put Tyson on his heels... thats life lol.
We all see what we want to see. I saw 1 dude clearly in survival mode from the FIRST BELL. ''Fighting'' not to get KTFO. Going the distance was enough for one of the guys.

A 17 y/o Holy would have been a champ if all he had to worry about was Trev, Smith and Tucker
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:15 AM #16
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I donít find many who say he did not fight some good fighters. The issue with Tyson was he never showed intestinal fortitude. In a losing fight he typically lost and went out with a whimper. This is the reason he us not rated higher than he is. Give Tyson Frazierís drive, heart and will to win at all cost and you would have a top two ATG.
--- knocked out Buster while being reduced to a zombie in the ring because of his experimental psycho sedatives that he was not credited with.

And what would you know about intestinal fortitude sonny? Few fighters ever had to crawl out of such a deep hellhole pipeline to prison he was birthed in.

We can thank Cus, Jacobs, and Cayton for making him into such a record setting juggernaut that can never be duplicated.

He was also set for life had he retired after his mental illness diagnosis thanks to their wise investments in retirement funds.

Alas, they were no longer around to mentor him and King and Givens and the rest of the sychophants got their blood sucking hooks in him and the rest is tragic boxing history.

Now, play that little micro recorder you keep in your beanie telling us what a smarty pants you are.

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Old 02-21-2019, 03:10 PM #17
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We all see what we want to see. I saw 1 dude clearly in survival mode from the FIRST BELL. ''Fighting'' not to get KTFO. Going the distance was enough for one of the guys.

A 17 y/o Holy would have been a champ if all he had to worry about was Trev, Smith and Tucker
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Curtis Curtis Curtis... Holy was an incredible fighter indeed but look closely and you will see that he often had his problems with guys who were very technically accomplished like the 80's heavyweight gang: We have James T, Michael Moore, both very technically accomplished who beat Holly, to name a few...
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Mike Tyson also had a viral infection and ripped toe nail during this fight.

The toe injury was early sustained early in the fight or just at the end of training camp.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:25 PM #19
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Curtis Curtis Curtis... Holy was an incredible fighter indeed but look closely and you will see that he often had his problems with guys who were very technically accomplished like the 80's heavyweight gang: We have James T, Michael Moore, both very technically accomplished who beat Holly, to name a few...
Tysons jab vs Holy.....How did that work out and in whos favor ?
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:44 PM #20
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Tysons jab vs Holy.....How did that work out and in whos favor ?
Thats not the point, Holly did not beat Tyson with his jab, he beat Tyson with his timing, and with triangulation... pushing Mike back on his heels when they clinched... also Holly used his skull quite a bit!
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