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Old 02-06-2019, 10:43 AM #21
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Leave it be Ortiz, AJ admitted he did all that talk because his master Edwards Hearns ordered him to do it to save face cuz public perception for AJ is dwindling!

Ortiz needs to get his managers to work their magic and get him in the top rankings for a shot at one of AJís belts!

I looked at the rankings and itís weird that a considerable top 5 or top 10 heavyweight isnít even in the top 10 rankings for none of AJís belts except for the WBA and heís barely there at #11!

I also would like Ortiz to put pressure on his promoter to find a way to get the money so his team can start making offers cuz these dudes talk but truly donít want the smoke!

Whyte , Joshua and Usyk have all called out Ortiz but then didnít offer him a deal or gave him a low ball offer!

It sucks but Ortiz is still a high risk and low reward fighter, even more so due to him not being undefeated any longer!
Is it weird though? Without even digging at Ortiz what fights has he had in those ranking systems to work his way into the top ten? They have their rules so they can't just put him up there for 'potential' if other guys a fighting higher ranked fighters than what Ortiz is.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:47 AM #22
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I imagine because Big Baby's a bigger match (money and legacy-wise), and it's also an in-house fight.

But yeah, Ortiz would be a fun fight if the Big Baby fight falls through.
Big baby is not a bigger fight money wise or legacy wise he canít even sellout 3k seat arenas when Ortiz/wilder had Barclays packed
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:51 AM #23
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Joshua should be fighting Ortiz anyway!!! What has Miller done to be in this spot? Quit ducking top competition. Checks are earned in boxing.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:52 AM #24
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Big baby is not a bigger fight money wise or legacy wise he canít even sellout 3k seat arenas when Ortiz/wilder had Barclays packed
*which Wilder packed.

Ortiz didn't do ish.

Ortiz would still be a good name on AJ's resume IMO. Not as good as Povetkin, but better than Parker and Takam.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:59 AM #25
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Is it weird though? Without even digging at Ortiz what fights has he had in those ranking systems to work his way into the top ten? They have their rules so they can't just put him up there for 'potential' if other guys a fighting higher ranked fighters than what Ortiz is.
What 7 heavyweights are better than Ortiz (Exclusive of Wilder, Fury, Joshua)? Who are these other guys that are fighting higher ranked guys.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:12 AM #26
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What 7 heavyweights are better than Ortiz (Exclusive of Wilder, Fury, Joshua)? Who are these other guys that are fighting higher ranked guys.
What guys has Ortiz fought to get in the top rankings in all the systems, especially since his loss, is my point?

I'm not attacking his skillset or saying whether those fighters would beat him just that they have probably followed the rules more to acheive their rankings. If you're not fighting guys in the top 50 you can't expect to be ranked top ten across the board.

Chillout, don't get so defensive.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:24 AM #27
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AJ should sign with PBC (Protected boxing contenders).
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:25 AM #28
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Iíd like to hear a reply directly from Joshua and not Hearn on this one.
Iím with u on that cause Iím sure Hearn DIDNT tell AJ Ortiz people reach out to a fight with him
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:33 AM #29
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AJ would retire Ortiz. But hey, at least he'd go out with a decent payday.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:41 AM #30
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I guess the real question from this article is how does Lara keep getting headline opportunities.
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