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Old 01-08-2019, 07:44 AM #11
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I remember seeing this too. They also had one of those on the PBC FOX announcements , and guys that you didn't expect to hit that hard based on their KO % did pretty well. I think Andre Dirrel was one of the hardest punchers based on that machine.
That's crazy. Maybe Dirrell just doesn't fight like a puncher, never looking to land a full force wallop on top level fighters.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:39 AM #12
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If he was then he would've been boxing not making peanuts fighting in a cage


the guys on this forum really must be dumb. there isn't a UFC HW in history who made in his entire career what joe parker made in one fight against anthony joshua. if these guys could box at the top level they would. big HW paydays in the UFC are almost always less than a million bucks. top MMA HW have very often gone to other organizations because a lot of the revenue they generate goes toward paying lesser tier fighters, their health insurance, marketing budgets, etc
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Old 01-08-2019, 01:18 PM #13
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Too bad he couldn't land anything against Stipe and didn't even bother throwing a punch against my boy Derrick Lewis.
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Welp there goes that theory then. Trained fighters seem to all punch relatively equal.

It's just the individual like I said, either you have power or you don't. Regardless of sport.
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:45 AM #15
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No........punch machines and any method of recording punches are complete bogus. We aren't there yet.

You also know this was manufactured by the UFC in order to hype Ngannou right?

It's too bad that train stopped.
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Well **** son...half true I reckon.

My name is Adam Ramos. I am a prosthetics inventor. I'm not super famous or anything but I've been on TV a few times, Netflix, and a few other media spots that highlight my authority over the physics of the human body.

Which, by the way, is called kinesiology. I am a kinesiologist.

That said, yes these machine are for promotion and fun and do not give you a real measurement but rather a favorable one.

That does not mean we lack the ability to measure the energy of a punch or any other projectile.

Yes, a punch would be handled as a projectile.

In a real study what we'd use is the exact same set up already used by the firearms industry to rate their weapons.

Rocky Marciano's tests was scientific, well what I know of it...I have never actually looked it up but from Mike Casey's article about the pendulum, yepp-o that's how any kinesiologist on the planet would do it.

It is a kinetic question. It's test and answer are found in kinetics. Why on earth would anyone mix in electricity? Promotion. In the conversion from electrical to kinetic energy you find wiggle room.

I did not watch the video, but I did notice Mickey's comment. WTF is a Unit indeed?
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That's really absurd.

If you really want to see who releases more energy you only need to a weight, a clock, and measuring tape. It is not rocket science. Hell, it's Newtonian.

It's funny y'all believe we can measure the energy of a nuke but not a punch. It isn't your fault. You've only seen bull**** and the industry tells you even more bull****.

Sweet science is not science at all. It's never had science mixed in. There has never been a physicist trainer. Trainers have never adopted new techniques due to a scientific paper. The science in boxing is serendipitous not with purpose and because of that what is unknown to boxing has become conflated by its fans to being simply unknown. It is not. Look to science, real science, kinesiology. We know quite a lot about the sport that is meant to be very mysterious.

Finally " Power is something you are born with" Does that sound scientific to you? Good Newtonian explanation? Of course it isn't. It doesn't even sound it.
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Being able to punch hard does not mean you would give boxers a run for their money.

Any adult male can easily generate enough power to knock out any other adult male if they land in the right spot.

Analyze slow motion footage of any boxer known for their power be it Kovalev or Tyson and you will realize it's all angles. They know how to turn their opponent's chin, stop them in their tracks when they try to reset, etc.

Punching super duper hard=destroy your own hands, give your opponent a mild bruise on the shoulder or scalp.

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