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Old 12-13-2018, 02:08 PM #21
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Yes it was hilarious. Heís not a better boxer in my opinion and his body work is not nearly as great as Jackís. I donít know who would win though would be a great fight though
We can certainly agree on that part. Let's hope we get to find out in 2019..
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Old 12-13-2018, 04:25 PM #22
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DeGale and Stevenson weren't the same after face Jack. Maybe he caught them at the right time or he took something out of them in those fights.
I hesitate to say this because many on boxingscene dont give credit to the boxers I like who deserve it, so if you guys are going to give boxers I like credit for beating Jack even if not as much credit is deserved for that as other things fighters have done that they havent been given any credit for, then who am I to argue? They deserve credit one way or another, so...

However, I still want to speak the truth, and the truth is, Rogelio Medina is the one who ended James Degale's prime, not Badou Jack. James Degale was not the same... after Rogelio Medina.

It's just like people say Kovalev wasnt the same after Ward, when in reality he wasn't the same... vs and after Chilemba, not Ward.

It's just that everyone knows Ward and Jack, very few know Medina and Chilemba, so like happens in many sports, the stars get the credit for what the grunt workers do. Actually, in a lot of sports its the opposite, just look how Draymond gets all the credit for Thompson and KD's elite wing defense, and Curry's stealing ability. Thompson and KD are both long and oversized for their positions, a huge advantage. Draymond is undersized for his position. What would the Warriors look like without their advantage players, their oversized great players, on the wing, the most important defensive position in many ways, and with just undersized players like Green?

Anyway, the point is, in this case, the stars got credit for what the lesser known fighters had already done, because many boxing fans didnt watch the lesser known fights, they only watched Kovalev-Ward and Degale-Jack, and that's what has caused Ward and Jack to become overrated. If either ever fights a PRIME top guy, I think you will see they are not as good as people think. Only way Jack beats Gvozdyk is if Gvozdyk's chin or body resistance dont hold up to the Memo Power. Skill wise, Gvozdyk and Bivol are both better than Jack, Alvarez is less better but still better, and the only one Jack's skill might be near even with is Beterbiev, but my oh my oh my I do not think Jack would want any part of that fight because the skill might be closer, but there are other things in play that could make that a way worse fight for Jack than even fighting the more skilled guys.

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Old 12-14-2018, 03:45 AM #23
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good fight here
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:12 AM #24
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Straight up...Jack took DeGale and Stevenson's souls when they fought. All great guys, by the way! Hope Adonis pulls through!
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:22 AM #25
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Jack sucks Browne will beat his ass.
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Interesting fight

Have to edge gvod though

He is probably closer to his prime version than the older jack
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