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If arum is fool enough to sacrifice his future cash cow to pac then we can see this fight happen.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostIf that was his guaranteed purse he would get it. But it's not so he's pricing himself out
Pricing himself out? That was his guaranteed purse since 2008. They chose to accept less against Vargas as a 'break' because they chose to.
Boxing PPVs/economy has changed so I understand why Top Rank/HBO isn't willing to pay up...but you have to understand also....pac is also use to these big paydays... He doesn't fight for legacy anymore... he won enough titles and made enough $$$.. he fights because he likes it, loves training... and that's all he knew for 20 years.
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Originally posted by Strategic1 View PostThat is his guaranteed purse... Otherwise they wouldn't have tried negotiating the Khan fight on their own. Top Rank wasn't willing to pay, so they tried to make a big $$$ fight on their own and it fell through.
Pricing himself out? That was his guaranteed purse since 2008. They chose to accept less against Vargas as a 'break' because they chose to.
Boxing PPVs/economy has changed so I understand why Top Rank/HBO isn't willing to pay up...but you have to understand also....pac is also use to these big paydays... He doesn't fight for legacy anymore... he won enough titles and made enough $$$.. he fights because he likes it, loves training... and that's all he knew for 20 years.
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Disagree. The guy is legit, i'd say the next p4p ruler unless his distractions outside the ring go too far.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostDid he get it for Vargas? No. Did he get it for Horn? No. Obviously you don't know the meaning of guaranteed
Can you read? Negotiating a khan fight on their own a..is pretty much proof as is.
They chose to take a guy like Horn... because he obviously doesn't fight for legacy anymore. He won enough titles and earned enough $$$. He's a senator and just likes to box/train. Sure, he still wants to get paid.
pacquiao is like.. .."i'm a senator, ..I like to box..i enjoy training and boxing when I can take a break from being a senator. Love being paid a good amount for it. If you like to watch me fight..cool... If not..I don't give a %$#....
Seriously, that's basically what I think Team PAC's stance is right now and I think that's ok for a 38 year old fighter who's done it all.
After the Horn fight (horn is rated #2 by wbo/ibo...If he doesn't fight a ranked opponent,... sure he should give up his title.. But I think they'd go after a legit name and defend the titles still.. we will see.Last edited by Strategic1; 05-21-2017, 07:54 AM.
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Originally posted by Strategic1 View PostObviously... you don't know the $#@ you are talking about. I've watched interviews where Roach alluded to taking less money for the Vargas fight ..as a break..and because they chose to.
Can you read? Negotiating a khan fight on their own a..is pretty much proof as is.
They chose to take a guy like Horn... because he obviously doesn't fight for legacy anymore. He won enough titles and earned enough $$$. He's a senator and just likes to box/train. Sure, he still wants to get paid.
pacquiao is like.. .."i'm a senator, ..I like to box..i enjoy training and boxing when I can take a break from being a senator. Love being paid a good amount for it. If you like to watch me fight..cool... If not..I don't give a %$#....
Seriously, that's basically what I think Team PAC's stance is right now and I think that's ok for a 38 year old fighter who's done it all.
After the Horn fight (horn is rated #2 by wbo/ibo...If he doesn't fight a ranked opponent).... sure he should give up his title.. But I think they'd go after a legit name and defend the titles still.. we will see.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostWhat is the definition is guarantee?
Like I said previously, they wouldn't have negotiated the pac-khan fight to the point of announcing it (without Arum)... if there wasn't some form of a guarantee.
Top Rank wasn't willing to pay up, so they operated more like a 'free agent' and tried to negotiate a fight on their own.
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Originally posted by Strategic1 View PostThere are guarantees. And there are also other terms/conditions/clauses built into contracts.
Like I said previously, they wouldn't have negotiated the pac-khan fight to the point of announcing it (without Arum)... if there wasn't some form of a guarantee.
Top Rank wasn't willing to pay up, so they operated more like a 'free agent' and tried to negotiate a fight on their own.
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