Comments Thread For: Frank Warren: Fury Has Gotten Into Wilder's Head

[iamboxing]

while the future heavyweight king Daniel Dubois takes another step up the ladder.

Can't wait to see him fight again. Future HW king.

[hugh grant]

I'm sure fury has gotten into wilder head simply because wilder had to deny fury had. If you have to state it it means fury probably has.
Not that I really knows what it means. I'm not a pro I boxer.

[Marchegiano]

Fools, there is no getting into Wilder's head. What's he gonna do now, overreach? He wasn't already gonna do that? Gonna punch like he really really wants to take Fury's head off and make the mistakes that come with? He wasn't gonna do that before the mouth running?

I don't see how pissing off Wilder changes anything to do with how he fights. It's entertaining but I don't see how either man's bull**** could even potentially work in their favor.


Let pretend for a second that Wilder actually had Fury shook. How does Fury fight differently? Gonna fight safe, at distance, and with angles? Well yeah...that's what he does. What's he gonna do to stay super extra safe? repeat Wlad? Done said he's gonna do that but better than last time so I don't see how giving him more motivation to be more elusive works in Wilder's favor.


Head games are for more middle road guys. Wilder's a pure puncher with even less boxing skills added to his skill set than most well known punchers. I'd say he second to only Marciano in his lack of giving a **** about points boxing. Tyson is his complete opposite. Looks down on all things puncher and praises boxing as the proven art to train. There is no room to change how they fight. Wilder believes in the power of the punch. Tyson believes in the art of boxing....**** ain't changed.

[kafkod]

Fools, there is no getting into Wilder's head. What's he gonna do now, overreach? He wasn't already gonna do that? Gonna punch like he really really wants to take Fury's head off and make the mistakes that come with? He wasn't gonna do that before the mouth running?

I don't see how pissing off Wilder changes anything to do with how he fights. It's entertaining but I don't see how either man's bull**** could even potentially work in their favor.


Let pretend for a second that Wilder actually had Fury shook. How does Fury fight differently? Gonna fight safe, at distance, and with angles? Well yeah...that's what he does. What's he gonna do to stay super extra safe? repeat Wlad? Done said he's gonna do that but better than last time so I don't see how giving him more motivation to be more elusive works in Wilder's favor.


Head games are for more middle road guys. Wilder's a pure puncher with even less boxing skills added to his skill set than most well known punchers. I'd say he second to only Marciano in his lack of giving a **** about points boxing. Tyson is his complete opposite. Looks down on all things puncher and praises boxing as the proven art to train. There is no room to change how they fight. Wilder believes in the power of the punch. Tyson believes in the art of boxing....**** ain't changed.

I understand where you are coming from. But in each of the 3 pressers, Fury was able to trigger Wilder and make him genuinely enraged. And Fury has a habit of talking to his opponents and taunting them during a fight.

Wilder usually has a very economical style, doing nothing for long periods except stalking and probing, looking for the chance to land his big right hand. That's why he often falls behind on points. He only goes on his high energy, windmilling rampages when he has guys hurt and is looking to finish them off.

If Fury can trigger Wilder during the fight, get him fighting angry and emotional, Wilder is bound to burn up energy quicker than he usually does. And Fury's 3 stone weight advantage could come into play there too.

[JWHardin]

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You give Wilder too much credit. He ain't all that bright.



Yes you're right it is all trash talk to sell tickets... and the promoter(s) are happy it is a very spirited back and forth trash talk bit. As for Fury, I doubt he did as much different drugs as he claimed. Most people are less than what they claim to be anyway. And he certainly isn't stupid, as you claim. And brain fried? Doubtful. He still seems to have his faculties, and he says he needs a big challenge to get up for the fight. So we will learn a lot about whether Fury has that speed and skill back again. It will be an excellent matchup no matter how it turns out. IMO though, Fury outclasses Wilder for a UD.

The only way Fury sees the final bell is if Wilder spends the majority of his time head hunting, instead of attacking the body the first half of the fight. If he does that, Fury will definitely fall. Wilder isn't a 40yr old Wlad that couldn't pull the trigger.

[Adamsc151]

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Fury maybe inside Wilders head, but only because Wilder's allowing himself to be baited.
Fury's an attention seeker (but tbh so is Wilder), the best way to deal with that is to show open boredom toward all the antics. Feign yawning and little naps, keep looking at a watch or phone, have little side chats, show general disinterest etc at press conferences.

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Your idea defeats the whole purpose of the tour... to promote interest in the fight, sell more tickets.



You're spinning back around to the same thing. That does NOT promote the fight. Stirs little interest. Not what a promotional tour is all about. And promoters spend a lot of cashish to do the promotional tours. And besides, Wilder thinks he's some kind of God, so vs Fury he's met his match. There can't be 2 Gods in the ring anyway. One will fall. Wilder isn't capable of what you think he should do anyway.

Probably not, Wilder does not look like he was blessed with patience or a poker face which is what would be needed to beat Fury at mind games. Nobody is ever going to beat Fury at banter or talking up a fight. Best Wilder can do is to let any anger burn off in the moment then put it swiftly out of his head.
Fight night itself depends on how close to his best Fury can be more than any mind games - if his timing and movement are still way off he'll get stopped. Or he'll upset the odds again and dance his way to a points victory.

[hugh grant]

The only way Fury sees the final bell is if Wilder spends the majority of his time head hunting, instead of attacking the body the first half of the fight. If he does that, Fury will definitely fall. Wilder isn't a 40yr old Wlad that couldn't pull the trigger.

Fury will punish wilder if wilder goes for body. Ggg didn't go for body of Nell and neither will wilder. Fury go t long arms.
Fury wouldn't allow wla d to pull trigger, wla d pulled trigger ok v josh

[PunchyPotorff]

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You give Wilder too much credit. He ain't all that bright.



Yes you're right it is all trash talk to sell tickets... and the promoter(s) are happy it is a very spirited back and forth trash talk bit. As for Fury, I doubt he did as much different drugs as he claimed. Most people are less than what they claim to be anyway. And he certainly isn't stupid, as you claim. And brain fried? Doubtful. He still seems to have his faculties, and he says he needs a big challenge to get up for the fight. So we will learn a lot about whether Fury has that speed and skill back again. It will be an excellent matchup no matter how it turns out. IMO though, Fury outclasses Wilder for a UD.

The only way Fury sees the final bell is if Wilder spends the majority of his time head hunting, instead of attacking the body the first half of the fight. If he does that, Fury will definitely fall. Wilder isn't a 40yr old Wlad that couldn't pull the trigger.

Like someone else said, if Wilder does that, Fury counters to stop him. GGG threw hardly any body shots in either Canelo fight. And there was a reason for it. The return fire was brutal each time he tried it. Same thing here. Fury has long arms and an excellent jab to keep his opponents honest. If all of Fury enters the ring, he will give Wilder fits for 12 rounds. We'll see how it goes... but IMO barring a lucky head shot, Wilder gets embarrassed for all 12 rounds. Can't wait for this one to happen. Should be a great fight for hardcore fans.

[JWHardin]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
You give Wilder too much credit. He ain't all that bright.



Yes you're right it is all trash talk to sell tickets... and the promoter(s) are happy it is a very spirited back and forth trash talk bit. As for Fury, I doubt he did as much different drugs as he claimed. Most people are less than what they claim to be anyway. And he certainly isn't stupid, as you claim. And brain fried? Doubtful. He still seems to have his faculties, and he says he needs a big challenge to get up for the fight. So we will learn a lot about whether Fury has that speed and skill back again. It will be an excellent matchup no matter how it turns out. IMO though, Fury outclasses Wilder for a UD.



Like someone else said, if Wilder does that, Fury counters to stop him. GGG threw hardly any body shots in either Canelo fight. And there was a reason for it. The return fire was brutal each time he tried it. Same thing here. Fury has long arms and an excellent jab to keep his opponents honest. If all of Fury enters the ring, he will give Wilder fits for 12 rounds. We'll see how it goes... but IMO barring a lucky head shot, Wilder gets embarrassed for all 12 rounds. Can't wait for this one to happen. Should be a great fight for hardcore fans.

You seem to think Fury is a fantastic boxer? lmao. He looks awkward and clumsy, so the chance he embarrasses Wilder is slim. Wilder is a total different fighter than Wlad, who hesitated way too much because of Fury's stupid feints. People forget that Fury and Wlad combined had the lowest punches landed in any championship fight in history. It was a complete joke of a fight, but props to Fury for doing enough to win.

Wilder is wild at times and unorthodox, so he WILL catch Fury at some point. He has a tremendous gas tank and is much more athletic than Fury. If Fury had a big punch to go with his decent skills he would have a chance, but he doesn't.

[PunchyPotorff]

You seem to think Fury is a fantastic boxer? lmao. He looks awkward and clumsy, so the chance he embarrasses Wilder is slim. Wilder is a total different fighter than Wlad, who hesitated way too much because of Fury's stupid feints. People forget that Fury and Wlad combined had the lowest punches landed in any championship fight in history. It was a complete joke of a fight, but props to Fury for doing enough to win.

Wilder is wild at times and unorthodox, so he WILL catch Fury at some point. He has a tremendous gas tank and is much more athletic than Fury. If Fury had a big punch to go with his decent skills he would have a chance, but he doesn't.

Fury is a he!!uva lot better boxer and athlete than you give him credit for. This will be a close fight.