List Your Top 30 Greatest Heavyweights (176+ Unlimited Weight) Of All Time

[righthook10]

I only rank fighters in one weight class and I have Langford at Middleweight.

Poet

Ah, okay. Fair enough. In that case, your list seems pretty good. I personally don't have a list, but I enjoy seeing others'.

I read the other thread that you were talking about in your opening post. The guy that made it had Klitschko as #1 and McCall and Tua somewhere in the top 10. I couldn't believe it.

[StarshipTrooper]

Ah, okay. Fair enough. In that case, your list seems pretty good. I personally don't have a list, but I enjoy seeing others'.

I read the other thread that you were talking about in your opening post. The guy that made it had Klitschko as #1 and McCall and Tua somewhere in the top 10. I couldn't believe it.

He's what I call a "size whore". He's so hung up on weight and height that it's practically his only consideration when ranking Heavyweights.

Poet

[Vadrigar.]

He's what I call a "size whore". He's so hung up on weight and height that it's practically his only consideration when ranking Heavyweights.

Poet

My current top 10 heavies (superheavies) :
1. Vitali Klitschko
2. George Foreman
3. Mike Tyson
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Lennox Lewis
6. Larry Holmes
7. Wladimir Klitschko
8. Oliver McCall
9. David Tua
10. Evander Holyfield

found this quite funny among other things on that list...........

[StarshipTrooper]

found this quite funny among other things on that list...........

Yeah, a few months ago he was claiming Foreman was drugged for the Ali fight and now he's on about the ropes. He carefully omits the fact that the fight was fought in a 16 foot phone booth (a HUGE advantage for Foreman) and that the ring had very heavy padding under the canvas (putting a mover at a SEVER disadvantage) :hahahaha9:

Poet

[SBleeder]

1. Oliver McCall
2. Nikolay Valuev
3. Trevor Berbick
4. George Foreman
5. Jimmy Ellis
6. Leon Spinks
7. Rudi Lubbers
8. Oliver McCall again
9. Muhammad Ali
10. Hector Mercedes
11. Mike Tyson
12. Gentleman Jim Corbett
13. Gentleman Joe Louis
14. Floyd Patterson
15. Gentleman Sonny Liston
16. Eric Esch
17. Evander Holydeal
18. Eddie Futch
19. Joe Frazier
20. Vitali Klitschko

McCall tops my list for two reasons. First, Frankenfrank had him in his top ten and that's good enough for me. Second, it takes a real man to cry in a boxing ring.

[BigStereotype]

For the record, here's my own list:

1-12

01. Muhammad Ali
02. Joe Louis
03. Jack Johnson
04. Jack Dempsey
05. Larry Holmes
06. Sonny Liston
07. Evander Holyfield
08. George Foreman
09. Rocky Marciano
10. Mike Tyson
11. Joe Frazier
12. Harry Wills


13-30 (in no particular order)

Max Baer
Riddick Bowe
James Corbett
George Godfrey
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
James Jeffries
Vitali Klitschko
Lennox Lewis
Sam McVey
Billy Miske
Ken Norton
Floyd Patterson
Max Schmeling
Earnie Shavers
John L. Sullivan
David Tua
Jersey Joe Walcott

Overall, a good list. I have a few quibbles - I'd have Dempsey lower, Foreman higher, stuff like that. But I am really surprised that you have Tua up there. He's got a few decent wins, destroying Ruiz and stopping Rahman, but overall not a great resume. Slow, one-handed fighter. Incredible, incredible power, but I don't really see what he's done to be a top 30 heavyweight.

[StarshipTrooper]

Overall, a good list. I have a few quibbles - I'd have Dempsey lower, Foreman higher, stuff like that. But I am really surprised that you have Tua up there. He's got a few decent wins, destroying Ruiz and stopping Rahman, but overall not a great resume. Slow, one-handed fighter. Incredible, incredible power, but I don't really see what he's done to be a top 30 heavyweight.

I would point out that only my top-12 would I consider legitimate ATG Heavyweights. The bottom 18 are what I would regard as "near-greats".

Poet

[BigStereotype]

I would point out that only my top-12 would I consider legitimate ATG Heavyweights. The bottom 18 are what I would regard as "near-greats".

Poet

Ok, that's fair. I really looked at 1-12 and then sort of glanced over 13-30 and now that I'm giving it a second look, he fits in with the names a little better. I'd say he's near the bottom of that list, though.

[Vadrigar.]

I figure that prime for prime Liston was the better fighter. The actual IRL fights unfortunately weren't prime on prime matchups: Liston was past-prime against Ali and Ali was past-prime against Frazier. It makes a difference. That being said, Frazier's effort in the first fight with Ali was truly one of those special performances: It would have been VERY difficult (though not impossible) for any ATG Heavyweight to beat Frazier that night; and when you consider that a past-prime Ali STILL beats most in-prime ATGs it puts it into perspective. It was one of those special performances that we get to see maybe once a decade.

Poet

Yeah ok, fair enough.

[sonnyboyx2]

For the record, here's my own list:

1-12

01. Muhammad Ali
02. Joe Louis
03. Jack Johnson
04. Jack Dempsey
05. Larry Holmes
06. Sonny Liston
07. Evander Holyfield
08. George Foreman
09. Rocky Marciano
10. Mike Tyson
11. Joe Frazier
12. Harry Wills


13-30 (in no particular order)

Max Baer
Riddick Bowe
James Corbett
George Godfrey
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
James Jeffries
Vitali Klitschko
Lennox Lewis
Sam McVey
Billy Miske
Ken Norton
Floyd Patterson
Max Schmeling
Earnie Shavers
John L. Sullivan
David Tua
Jersey Joe Walcott

i can live with this list with the exception of David Tua & Earnie Shavers who were IMO just contenders like say Quarry, Lyle, Chuvalo & Bonavena was yet i would take those 4 guys to defeat both of them due to their "Granite-chin" and superior ability.