Eddie Hearn "Are We Running Or Begging Deontay Wilder?"

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AJ has been ducking wilder for years. since wilder and fury fought to a draw and most felt fury deserved the nod, the pressure is on wilder to make the rematch. AJ knows this, now that he isn't a primary target, he conveniently calls out wilder. so when wilder does the right thing (as he always does as far as making the best fight possible), AJ can act as if he wanted to fight and wilder didn't bite. VERY transparent.

- former AJ fan turned fan of anyone else due to his shameful ducking

Joshua has been ducking for years? No he hasn't. That's just bull****. Since which date and year has he been ducking according to you?

So you didn't see AJ call out Deontay at the end of the Povetkin fight? AJ isn't a big talker, but he's said plenty of times he wants the fight. Just because he isn't shouting his mouth off all of the time or on social media chatting **** doesn't mean he doesn't want the fight.

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This kinda stuff works well with the fans over there, I guess. Wilder said you would come begging after the Fury fight. And that’s exactly what happened. They overplayed their hand and now are desperately trying to get back in the mix. Sure, Joshua will always do his numbers — but the luster is gone.

Hearn was trying to get Wilder to sign before the Fury fight had even happened. Have you forgotten already? Or are you just playing dumb?

What works for you over there is plenty of lies and hoping it sticks. Not forgetting the constant contradictions and the hypocrisy.

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you were running all year

now that wilder had a good fight with fury and a rematch will be viable and lucrative you are all of the sudden pretending to be interested even though you wanna fight whyte really

They were interested in the fight before the Fury fight had even happened. Remember Hearn wanted Wilder to sign a contract before the fight? Have you forgotten?

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now Wilder is saying AJ is begging for the fight, willing to give Wilder more money than ever.. And his fanboys are like forget AJ!

Just because it's more money than ever doesn't mean it's a good deal or a fair deal.

AJ will only fight on April 13 whether April 13 works for Wilder or not. AJ will only fight at Wembley whether Wembley works for Wilder or not. AJ will only fight on DAZN whether DAZN works for Wilder or not.

Why would Wilder go to the UK for 20 million to fight AJ when he can fight Fury at home for 20 million or more?

Yes, AJ is begging for the fight now, but not on a date, at a place, or for an amount that's tempting.

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Eddie Hearn knows what Wilder's ask on the fight is now, after they dicked him around in the Fall, and it's clear as day that the money on offer from Eddie Hearn is so far off of the ask that Wilder's management is moving headlong into the Wilder-Fury 2 talks.

Not that difficult

What are Wilder's management asking for?

And how do you know Hearn is so far off what they are asking for? Do you know what Eddie is offering then?

[Pigeons]

The 'A side' begging for a fight against a guy that does 'terrible PPV numbers' and 'can't sell out in his home country'.

Only in boxing.

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wlad lost all his belts the same year wilder won his belt. when was this supposed ducking?

You don't need to have a belt to duck, stupid. And Wlad lost his titles in November of 2015. Wilder won the title in January of the same year. Finkle even said Wilder was a new champion and needed to get some experience before taking on Wlad.

So stop with the bull****.

There was even a video on YT of Wilder saying before Wlad fought Fury that he was going to wait until Wlad had aged a bit more and wouldn't be looking to take the fight until 2017. But guess what? The video has been removed. I can't find it anywhere now.

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Hearn was trying to get Wilder to sign before the Fury fight had even happened.

Because he wanted to lock Wilder in at a lowball amount before Wilder had the chance to prove he could draw on PPV.

Wilder's PPV just did the equivalent of 1 million UK buys in the US alone. Meaning Wilder vs Fury likely generated just as much revenue as Joshua vs Povetkin did as Wilder vs Fury was on PPV in both the US and UK.

Yes, Fury is a stronger b-side than Povetkin, but it still means Wilder is now deserving of 40-45%, especially if the fight has to be in the UK where so much money will be left on the table.

So as long as Hearn is still talking about 35%, instead of 45%, Wilder is going to ignore him. Wilder vs Fury II likely breaks 500,000 buys in the US, meaning Wilder can make just as much as he'd make against Joshua.

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You don't need to have a belt to duck, stupid.

So a young rising contender, who has never won a world title before, works his way up to the #1 ranking in the most respected organization, waits for his mandatory title shot, and wins in a near shut out. And you complain that he was "ducking" a different champion, who fought on a different network, without having any idea whether that champion's organizations had any willingness to move Wilder up the rankings? You're being absolutely ridiculous.

And Wlad lost his titles in November of 2015. Wilder won the title in January of the same year. Finkle even said Wilder was a new champion and needed to get some experience before taking on Wlad.

Finkel said Wilder needed two quick defenses, and sure enough, he scheduled two quick defenses. When he said that, Klitschko had already signed to fight Jennings on HBO. So how can Wilder, a Showtime fighter, duck Wladimir, an HBO fighter, when Wladimir already signed to fight a different opponent before Wilder ever got his title shot? Doesn't make any sense.

Finkel handled both Wladimir and Wilder. Finkel was going to make the fight in 2016 once Wladimir's HBO contract had expired. It's not Wilder's fault Wladimir got upset by Fury.

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The 'A side' begging for a fight against a guy that does 'terrible PPV numbers' and 'can't sell out in his home country'.

Only in boxing.

AJ is the one making all the moves to get the fight done. Wilder is the one making moves to make sure it doesn't happen. If he weren't "Begging", you lot would call him a coward. Oh no, wait, you dregs already do.

You lot are the most disgusting piles of worthless **** I've ever come across in all my years of watching boxing. But that's just American's for you.