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  • #11
    I often overly critized Ward but one thing is a fact, Ward is a superior Boxer. Calzaghe was feather fisted, over hyped against much lesser opposition till Kessler(being his best win). Ward has developed much more as a fighter in just the minimal professional career, while Calazghe took his time and ended his career on a high note against much older opponents. Ward would dismantle Calazghe and most likely end the fight end the later rounds.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by mathed View Post
      LMAO, yeah OK. 46-0 (32 kos), Ward has lost years from his career playing games trying to stay undefeated and still is only 28-0 (15 kos). Joe had more KO's than Ward has total fights and he actually moved up in weight and still dominated.
      Calzaghe beat a slow Hopkins and faded Jones Jr... Come on, his two biggest accomplishments are beating much slower/older fighters. Calazghe's career was built off almost 98% under dogs with no real chance. Unlike Calazghe, Ward was tested early but allowed his contractual issues destroy his prime. Other fighters have gone through this and either thrived or went under. Ward has yet to show for individuals to think he will go under but he must push for greatness!! Ali lost most of him prime much like Ward, most fans believed he was done and yet he went on to have a historic career.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by mathed View Post
        LMAO, yeah OK. 46-0 (32 kos), Ward has lost years from his career playing games trying to stay undefeated and still is only 28-0 (15 kos). Joe had more KO's than Ward has total fights and he actually moved up in weight and still dominated.

        Moved up and dominated who? Hopkins? Jones jr?

        He didn't dominate hopkins and beating a shot roy jones don't count.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          Calzaghe would win a decision...

          His workrate and angles would drive Ward crazy, just like it did for hopkins..

          People can bash Calzaghe all they want, but the fact is, the guy was a winner, who could adapt, always had a very high workrate, and always rose to the occassion
          Ward is also a winner, who adapts and always rises to the occasion. So what's the difference?

          And calzaghe beat hopkins 114-113. Joe snuck out of there with a win. He didn't look like a great fighter that night. If that's driving hopkins crazy, what do you call what kovalev did to him?

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          • #15
            He'd probably win a close decision, but he wouldn't destroy Ward or beat him easy
            This. I think Clazaghe would win, but it would be close enough where all Wards fans would be salty about it.

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            • #16
              50/50. I've a ton of respect for both. Andre combines clinical accuracy with slick defense. Joe had unrivalled output and cardio along with crazy unpredictability.
              Both could work exceptionally well in a clinch. Both hard to predict and hit. I think Andre might take it based on clean counterpunching and never getting hit cleanly but Joe might just as easily take it with workrate.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by bluebeam View Post
                Ward is also a winner, who adapts and always rises to the occasion. So what's the difference?

                And calzaghe beat hopkins 114-113. Joe snuck out of there with a win. He didn't look like a great fighter that night. If that's driving hopkins crazy, what do you call what kovalev did to him?
                Excellent post
                Green k

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                • #18
                  reading some of these posts makes me think that you guys don't even know who calzaghe is. calzaghe was good at range....wtf are you serious? he was terrible. he was only effective when he got close and reeled off slap combos(which were illegal btw since hitting with the inside of the glove is not allowed)

                  calzaghe was good against flat footed fighters like kessler/shot jones. any movement and he looked lost because he couldn't set himself for slap furries. hopkins movement made him look terrible. he kept coming in square and getting hit flush over and over again. the same thing happened in the robin reid fight. they moved a bit, waited till calzaghe squared himself to attack and hit him clean. repeat. give credit to calaghe for not giving up but lets not confuse determination with effective punching.

                  ward will certainly capitalize on calzaghe' inability to fight at long range, and he will certainly capitalize on him coming in reckless. then again ward's right hand is pure comedy gold. its downright terrible. also ward's movement isn't that great so i could see calzaghe being able to throw(not really land) a lot of punches which could steal him a decision. basically it would be like a much more pathetic version of maidana-floyd 1. also if ward is allowed to hold nonstop then it will look like maidana-floyd 2.

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                  • #19
                    Calzaghe claps him a couple times.

                    but ward comes out with the decision, just a better boxer

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by mathed View Post
                      Calzaghe would have destroyed him easily, made him look lost.
                      Originally posted by mathed View Post
                      LMAO, yeah OK. 46-0 (32 kos), Ward has lost years from his career playing games trying to stay undefeated and still is only 28-0 (15 kos). Joe had more KO's than Ward has total fights and he actually moved up in weight and still dominated.
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                      Calzaghe would win a decision...

                      His workrate and angles would drive Ward crazy, just like it did for hopkins..

                      People can bash Calzaghe all they want, but the fact is, the guy was a winner, who could adapt, always had a very high workrate, and always rose to the occassion

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