Can Vasyl Lomachenko ever become greater than Floyd Mayweather Jr with a loss?

[The Big Dunn]

The poor Vasyl Lomachenko had his soul and heart shamefully and disgracefully ripped apart, captured and manipulated by his boxing master, teacher, conqueror, annihilator, god and lord that is Orlando Salido. A boxer with 13 losses!

Can he possibly ever become greater than one of the true GREATS in Floyd Mayweather Jr with that being the case? If yes, how? What could the poor Lomachenko do now to get over that humiliation?

It all depends how you judge Floyd. If you are honest about his career, then it will be tough, but not impossible, for Loma to surpass him.

I just don't see how at his age and the dearth of top tier opponents available he can achieve what Floyd did.

That said, if he were to end up lets say 30-1 and as part of that beat Berchelt, Machado, Tank, then went to 140 and beat Easter, Linares and Mikey and then went to 147 and beat Crawford and Spence, then I think you have to consider him as one of the top 20 greatest ever.

[j.razor]

No but if he beats Mikey Garcia he has a better win than any of Floyd's resume.

Smh....Do you care how you sound?

[j.razor]

You mother****ers act like salido was beating his ass all over the ring and knocked him out lmao...

That fight could have easily gone either way, just like Floyd-Castillo

No, Floyd clearly beat castillo but the BEST loma could got against salido was a draw.

[j.razor]

It would be hard for him to do what Mayweather did but it's not impossible. The marketing effort on Lomachenko will ultimately be his down fall. It's almost like he's being set up for a humiliating loss. If he gets a second loss on his resume you can't even mention him and Mayweather in the same sentence without being ridiculed.

I can't put them in the same sentence now.

[j.razor]

Only for casuals who think that an undefeated record in and of itself defines greatness. By that standard, Mayweather, Marciano and Calzaghe are the three greatest fighters of all time simply because they retired undefeated and without a draw. Does anyone really believe these three are at the top of the heap based upon a zero in the loss column?

T.B.E. has the best resume.

[nacho daddy]

The loss has nothing to do with it. There are boxers who are greater than Mayweather will ever be who have suffered multiple losses. And the only reason he suffered the loss is because he took a risk early in his career that Mayweather would never have taken.

He'd need to keep boxing for another 8 or 9 years against elite opposition to do so, though. It's a big ask.

he is way better then payweather CAUSE HE FOUGHT A CHAMP IN HIS FIRST FIGHT. nobody did that. how many losses would froid have if he fought champions in his first fights

[nacho daddy]

anybody hear that don't like Lomo is a racist

[Irony123]

It all depends how you judge Floyd. If you are honest about his career, then it will be tough, but not impossible, for Loma to surpass him.

I just don't see how at his age and the dearth of top tier opponents available he can achieve what Floyd did.

That said, if he were to end up lets say 30-1 and as part of that beat Berchelt, Machado, Tank, then went to 140 and beat Easter, Linares and Mikey and then went to 147 and beat Crawford and Spence, then I think you have to consider him as one of the top 20 greatest ever.

The funny thing is Floyd didn't even do that, he went up multiple divisions (some of which he outgrew) but he didn't beat the best in those divisions. If you can tell me one fight where Floyd beat anyone 3 divisions north of his natural weight class who was in crawfords's or spence's hemisphere and in their primes then your argument has some merit, but otherwise you are setting up an all-time high expectation that by far would surpass what Floyd did in the ring.

[The Big Dunn]

he is way better then payweather CAUSE HE FOUGHT A CHAMP IN HIS FIRST FIGHT. nobody did that. how many losses would froid have if he fought champions in his first fights

His 1st title fight he was 25 years old. A lot of 25 year-olds have fought for titles.

Floyd won his 1st world title at 21. He'd been the lineal champ in 2 divisions by the time he was 25.

Context.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Let Loma do something before you cost him any more fans. Maybe that's the purpose of this thread. The overhype isn't necessary. [Your troll threads with this alt suck, by the way.]

Anyway, Loma has the skills and talent to succeed and do something special. Let him labor for the next 10 years, then we'll compare the two.

Loma has work to do catching up!