Both these guys went OUT OF THEIR WAY to fight guys NO ONE wanted to fight.And both did not have to.Ortiz has been ducked by every one(including Joshua/Hearn)And Brook could have easily just gone to 154 after GGG fight.Matter a fact BOTH were advised by their promoters to fight someone else.Name another fighter who took on the toughest fight without it either being a mandatory or the biggest money fight(NO FIGHHTER DUCKS the BIG MONEY fight).Anybody who don't like/root for these two guys are fanboys of fighters who could fight/lose to one of them.Just wanting to test themselves with against the BEST POSSIBLE wish we had 100 more like them.
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Boxing would be much better off if all fighters were like Wilder,Brook
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That's your opinion. Not every boxing fan thinks the same as you and that doesn't make them fanboys. I don't like either of them very much. They both brag too much. Wilder is fighting a worthy challenger now and that is good for him. But what about all the cherry pick title defenses he made against unworthy challengers? Do you call Brook's next fight a tough fight? I don't think it's a tough fight. I call it a cherry pick to make Brook look good with a KO win. Both Brook and Wilder are good fighters but neither is a favorite of mine. If that makes me a fanboy then so be it.
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostThat's your opinion. Not every boxing fan thinks the same as you and that doesn't make them fanboys. I don't like either of them very much. They both brag too much. Do you call Brook's next fight a tough fight? I don't think it's a tough fight. I call it a cherry pick to make Brook look good with a KO win. Both Brook and Wilder are good fighters but neither is a favorite of mine. If that makes me a fanboy then so be it.
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Originally posted by john l View PostBoth these guys went OUT OF THEIR WAY to fight guys NO ONE wanted to fight.And both did not have to.Ortiz has been ducked by every one(including Joshua/Hearn)And Brook could have easily just gone to 154 after GGG fight.Matter a fact BOTH were advised by their promoters to fight someone else.Name another fighter who took on the toughest fight without it either being a mandatory or the biggest money fight(NO FIGHHTER DUCKS the BIG MONEY fight).Anybody who don't like/root for these two guys are fanboys of fighters who could fight/lose to one of them.Just wanting to test themselves with against the BEST POSSIBLE wish we had 100 more like them.
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Originally posted by john l View PostBoth these guys went OUT OF THEIR WAY to fight guys NO ONE wanted to fight.
You are 100% correct. Boxing would be much better off if all fighters were like Wilder or Brook, but fighters watch the landscape and realize it's a bad idea for them to be like that.
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Originally posted by john l View PostBoth these guys went OUT OF THEIR WAY to fight guys NO ONE wanted to fight.And both did not have to.Ortiz has been ducked by every one(including Joshua/Hearn)And Brook could have easily just gone to 154 after GGG fight.Matter a fact BOTH were advised by their promoters to fight someone else.Name another fighter who took on the toughest fight without it either being a mandatory or the biggest money fight(NO FIGHHTER DUCKS the BIG MONEY fight).Anybody who don't like/root for these two guys are fanboys of fighters who could fight/lose to one of them.Just wanting to test themselves with against the BEST POSSIBLE wish we had 100 more like them.
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostThat's your opinion. Not every boxing fan thinks the same as you and that doesn't make them fanboys. I don't like either of them very much. They both brag too much. Wilder is fighting a worthy challenger now and that is good for him. But what about all the cherry pick title defenses he made against unworthy challengers? Do you call Brook's next fight a tough fight? I don't think it's a tough fight. I call it a cherry pick to make Brook look good with a KO win. Both Brook and Wilder are good fighters but neither is a favorite of mine. If that makes me a fanboy then so be it.
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Brook fought 2 mandated fights in 2 yrs while trying to unify with Vargas and getting a $$$ fight v May, Cotto, or Khan.
Wilder has never fought a mandate and is fighting a 40 yo in full detox from yrs of steroid abuse.
Ortiz nads r probably the size of peas about now
Punchers chance.
But his legs are as bad as Wilders
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Originally posted by john l View PostBoth these guys went OUT OF THEIR WAY to fight guys NO ONE wanted to fight.And both did not have to.Ortiz has been ducked by every one(including Joshua/Hearn)And Brook could have easily just gone to 154 after GGG fight.Matter a fact BOTH were advised by their promoters to fight someone else.Name another fighter who took on the toughest fight without it either being a mandatory or the biggest money fight(NO FIGHHTER DUCKS the BIG MONEY fight).Anybody who don't like/root for these two guys are fanboys of fighters who could fight/lose to one of them.Just wanting to test themselves with against the BEST POSSIBLE wish we had 100 more like them.
And he refuses to fight Joshua unless it's 50/50?
At 20% he'll still make more than he's been used to making.
No fighter ducks big money fight, eh?
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