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  • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
    Not if I'm a legit title contender... cavs won't get more improved by adding rose..

    But a team trying to get over the hump or at least not be horrible, rose could be a boost.. teams like Pelicans, Detroit, short term replacement to chris Paul in LA
    Good point with the Pelicans. They could use him.

    I can see your point about a team trying to get over the hump. On the Cavs he would be useless.

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      • Originally posted by War Dinamita View Post
        Have you seen the West guards? Lillian can't even make the team and you expect Russell to make the team? He's supposed to make the all star team when he can't even play thanks to the tank commander.
        So you think trading a top 3 lottery pick just to get rid of mozgof's contract was the best use of that pick?

        You think that's better than having that 3pick turn into an all star caliber player for your team for the next 10 years?

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        • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          So you think trading a top 3 lottery pick just to get rid of mozgof's contract was the best use of that pick?

          You think that's better than having that 3pick turn into an all star caliber player for your team for the next 10 years?
          How many players picked after Russell have been all stars?

          Trading Russell with Moz's horrible contract was the right thing to do because you need to pair the young guys with good vets. Russell, Ingram, Randle, and Ball were not going to win you a ring any time soon and by the time the team became good, they would be due big money.

          Would you trade Russell for George/LeBron/Cousins and Kuzma? That's pretty much what Magic is trying to do. Do you think Magic hasn't been tampering behind the scene?

          A team with George, LeBron, Lonzo, and Ingram makes you an instant championship contender for the present and future. You can compete now for a ring without sacrificing the future.

          How are you going to improve the team with no cap space and Deng/Moz's dead weight on the team?

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          • Originally posted by War Dinamita View Post
            How many players picked after Russell have been all stars?

            Trading Russell with Moz's horrible contract was the right thing to do because you need to pair the young guys with good vets. Russell, Ingram, Randle, and Ball were not going to win you a ring any time soon and by the time the team became good, they would be due big money.

            Would you trade Russell for George/LeBron/Cousins and Kuzma? That's pretty much what Magic is trying to do. Do you think Magic hasn't been tampering behind the scene?

            A team with George, LeBron, Lonzo, and Ingram makes you an instant championship contender for the present and future. You can compete now for a ring without sacrificing the future.

            How are you going to improve the team with no cap space and Deng/Moz's dead weight on the team?


            You wouldn't have to improve the team if Russel pans out..

            Lakers would be built around Russel Ingram and ball... 3 straight lottery picks in 3 straight years.. those dudes pan out and lakers a contender.. much like how okc got Durant Westbrook and harden, all high lottery picks in 3 straight years.

            But since Russel alienated the locker room and front office, he was shipped out of town, and put lakers back a year, as they are now less talented than they were with Russel

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            • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
              You wouldn't have to improve the team if Russel pans out..

              Lakers would be built around Russel Ingram and ball... 3 straight lottery picks in 3 straight years.. those dudes pan out and lakers a contender.. much like how okc got Durant Westbrook and harden, all high lottery picks in 3 straight years.

              But since Russel alienated the locker room and front office, he was shipped out of town, and put lakers back a year, as they are now less talented than they were with Russel
              What did Durant, Harden, and Westbrook win in OKC? Yeah, they didn't win ****. You're proving my point. How long did it take for Durant and Westbrook to be successful in the West? They couldn't win a ring because they didn't have a legit 3rd option. They couldn't beat the best teams in the west because the other teams had better players.

              If Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, Harden couldn't win a ring, what makes you think a team of Lonzo, Ingram, and Russell will do better in a much deeper West?

              You need more than just a few good players to win a ring. You need talent at all positions and you need a deep team. How are you going to improve the team when you have two dead weight contracts sitting on the bench because they're terrible?

              Less talented compare to last year? LOL.

              I'm done.

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              • Originally posted by War Dinamita View Post
                What did Durant, Harden, and Westbrook win in OKC? Yeah, they didn't win ****. You're proving my point. How long did it take for Durant and Westbrook to be successful in the West? They couldn't win a ring because they didn't have a legit 3rd option. They couldn't beat the best teams in the west because the other teams had better players.

                If Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, Harden couldn't win a ring, what makes you think a team of Lonzo, Ingram, and Russell will do better in a much deeper West?

                You need more than just a few good players to win a ring. You need talent at all positions and you need a deep team. How are you going to improve the team when you have two dead weight contracts sitting on the bench because they're terrible?

                Less talented compare to last year? LOL.

                I'm done.


                Um,, they went to the finals, and had James harden as the 3rd option and then was stupid and traded him away..


                Russel, ball, Ingram >>> ball, Ingram



                So basically you think trading away top lottery pick to get rid of mozgof contract was the best use of pick?

                Yes or no?

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                • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                  Um,, they went to the finals, and had James harden as the 3rd option and then was stupid and traded him away..


                  Russel, ball, Ingram >>> ball, Ingram



                  So basically you think trading away top lottery pick to get rid of mozgof contract was the best use of pick?

                  Yes or no?

                  did you totally miss my reply to you a couple of pages ago regarding that trade?

                  actually, Dlo allowed us to move Mozgov's horrible contract, got us Brook Lopez (still under 30), got us Kyle Kuzma and provided us with the cap flexibility we need for next summer

                  i now look at Dlo as a placeholder that did its job

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                  • getting rid of Russell basically gave you 3 good players back in return (Lopez, Kuz and whoever we max next summer)

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                    • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                      Um,, they went to the finals, and had James harden as the 3rd option and then was stupid and traded him away..


                      Russel, ball, Ingram >>> ball, Ingram



                      So basically you think trading away top lottery pick to get rid of mozgof contract was the best use of pick?

                      Yes or no?
                      Yes, if it meant the Lakers can sign LeBron and George next season. At the end of the day all that matters is the name on the back and if you win a ring.

                      Would you take Russell and Mozgov instead of LeBron and George?
                      Last edited by War Dinamita; 07-20-2017, 08:21 PM.

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