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Old 02-08-2020, 12:00 AM #21
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:00 AM #22
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Canelo before they decided to sneak up on him in Mexico and test him, can't stop 154s but can go up and stop bigger fighters. Yep!
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wards entire career was like that and it was ok. ward was the first ufc/boxing cross over fighter. the rules must have been modified to allow him to do all that stuff.
He was dirty too... He always reminded me of Hopkins.

But what Maidana did vs Floyd was blatant asf...
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:15 AM #24
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its the difference between white collar crime and blue collar crime. blue collar guys just put bricks in their gloves and go to work and ussualy get caught. white collar criminals like floyd know how to work the system to get away with it. maybe not the biggest cheat but the best? maybe semantics

Nah... My point is why cant we have an unbiased discussion... We talking the biggest cheats... Not list of cheaters.

How tf u skip over guys who commited crimes, and destroyed lives and jump to str8 to Floyd and IVs and elbows. FOH.

We gat guys doing MMA in the ring, guys trying to decapitate guys nuts lmao.

Again FOH
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Nah... My point is why cant we have an unbiased discussion... We talking the biggest cheats... Not list of cheaters.

How tf u skip over guys who commited crimes, and destroyed lives and jump to str8 to Floyd and IVs and elbows. FOH.

We gat guys doing MMA in the ring, guys trying to decapitate guys nuts lmao.

Again FOH
I think the iv is a huge grey area for floyd but doesnt put his name on this thread . Its funny how all these guys are mentioning cute fighters , if they are gonna mention floyd and ward in this thread , they may aswell mention about 400 more guys . But they dont know about them . That is not cheating its borderline dirty tactics . Plaster of Paris hand wraps and removed padding is a whole other level . Daggum has had some good debates with me , I don't consider him to be a bad poster infact the opposite but I dont agree with him here
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:25 AM #28
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He was dirty too... He always reminded me of Hopkins.

But what Maidana did vs Floyd was blatant asf...
one mma move from maidana in a 12 round fight probably didn't have much affect on the outcome but literally hundreds of instances of wrestling, holding and hitting, headbutting, low blows over 12 rounds is much much worse imo. maybe its not as blatant because we have become conditioned to accept that as wards "style" but you can see how bad it is when people make entire 30 minute videos of ward doing it. you cant make a 30 minute video of maidana doing mma moves to floyd unless you make a loop of it and if you did that i would like to watch!
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I think the iv is a huge grey area for floyd but doesnt put his name on this thread . Its funny how all these guys are mentioning cute fighters , if they are gonna mention floyd and ward in this thread , they may aswell mention about 400 more guys . But they dont know about them . That is not cheating its borderline dirty tactics . Plaster of Paris hand wraps and removed padding is a whole other level . Daggum has had some good debates with me , I don't consider him to be a bad poster infact the opposite but I dont agree with him here

It shows how biased u are... Its no explanation behind it... U a hater. Point blank period

Guy mentioned Ward prolly thinking i would disagree... But im like yea he was dirty too lol. But its levels to this. But your bias to the side and keep it real. That's why guys might not like me etc. But you have to respect me for being unbiased!
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I think the iv is a huge grey area for floyd but doesnt put his name on this thread . Its funny how all these guys are mentioning cute fighters , if they are gonna mention floyd and ward in this thread , they may aswell mention about 400 more guys . But they dont know about them . That is not cheating its borderline dirty tactics . Plaster of Paris hand wraps and removed padding is a whole other level . Daggum has had some good debates with me , I don't consider him to be a bad poster infact the opposite but I dont agree with him here
thats what im saying about white collar and blue collar crime. one is obviously more blatant but how do you compare covering up ped use with tue's or making your opponent wear pillow gloves to a guy possibly having something in his hand wraps. how hard was it? how much affect did it have? etc...its hard to measure those things.

im just saying floyd had to work a lot harder to implement his cheating system therefore hes a bigger cheat. where a guy like resto just took out the padding in his gloves in 5 minutes and put some plaster on his fists. its akin to a rich billionaire buying the government and having them implement horrible tax policies that favor him, climate denying policies that favor his businesses, stopping health care reform, etc...and a street criminal robbing a bank with a gun. which is the bigger crime/cheat? what should we really be focusing on? floyd had all the power in boxing and he used it to get away with things that clearly he should not have done.
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