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Old 02-05-2020, 10:53 AM #101
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you've lied.

"2014 and before" was the answer to when he wasnt champion. You've tried to use it as the answer to a different question, when was he champion taking a title in the ring.

You gambled that I would forget what I wrote earlier this week. Never do that with me again.

let me know sometime why you felt the need to lie.

take your time, you'll need it.
I don't care yet why you wrote that silliness about not winning a belt in the ring having some effect on the consideration of defending said belt against another opponent. We'll get to that later, trust me. For now, I am laying foundation. We have established that Golovkin was a champion in 2014. I stated a fact pattern. You called me a liar.

Now prove it.
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Old 02-05-2020, 11:39 AM #102
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It's been said before but I'll repeat it because the haters won't like it.
If Golovkin is a "hype job", why didn't Alvarez , considered by his fans to be a great fighter, dominate, KO, knock down or even hurt the 35 year old Golovkin?
At 27 Alvarez was arguably in his physical prime and the judges determined after a D and a MD, that 1 rd. separated the 2 fighters.
Does that mean Alvarez is a hype job too.
Or does that mean GGG is not a hype job?
It has to be one or the other.
If you say you don't agree with the judges, than it becomes every fan's opinion on who won both fights and that might not help Alvarez.
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Old 02-05-2020, 11:42 AM #103
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It's been said before but I'll repeat it because the haters won't like it.
If Golovkin is a "hype job", why didn't Alvarez , considered by his fans to be a great fighter, dominate, KO, knock down or even hurt the 35 year old Golovkin?
At 27 Alvarez was arguably in his physical prime and the judges determined after a D and a MD, that 1 rd. separated the 2 fighters.
Does that mean Alvarez is a hype job too.
Or does that mean GGG is not a hype job?
It has to be one or the other.
If you say you don't agree with the judges, than it becomes every fan's opinion on who won both fights and that might not help Alvarez.
Golovkin didn't live up to the hype = Hype job. TBF he was never going to, his tarded fans were calling him a ATG better than Hagler after beating Lemieux.
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Old 02-05-2020, 11:46 AM #104
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It's been said before but I'll repeat it because the haters won't like it.
If Golovkin is a "hype job", why didn't Alvarez , considered by his fans to be a great fighter, dominate, KO, knock down or even hurt the 35 year old Golovkin?
At 27 Alvarez was arguably in his physical prime and the judges determined after a D and a MD, that 1 rd. separated the 2 fighters.
Does that mean Alvarez is a hype job too.
Or does that mean GGG is not a hype job?
It has to be one or the other.
If you say you don't agree with the judges, than it becomes every fan's opinion on who won both fights and that might not help Alvarez.
Fvk the dumb shet, Nelo outclassed pvssy-g twice so pvssy-g is an all time hype job who STILL can't get a W against a good fighter
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Old 02-05-2020, 12:19 PM #105
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Ward would’ve stopped GGG. Too fast, and GGG would’ve been slower at 168. Just different style fighters. GGG can only display defense from long range. Sloppy head movement. No upper body movement. This is why he couldn’t do anything with Canelo. Canelo too dangerous in inside fighting and GGG wanted nothing to do with being hit to the body. That’s why he only fought from a distance flicking jabs in a bore fest, looking busy just racking up points like in the amateur system. Depends on the mood of the judge if they want to acknowledge an amateur style bout or real prize fight. GGG didn’t show up. It was all destiny.
#1 Golovkin usually fights from the outside. He's a mid range fighter.
#2 Ward is not a fast fighter. His speed is OK but fast is not a term I would use to describe him.
#3. In sparring and in the mitts when he's weighting above 160 I don't see him being noticably slower than at 160.
I think Ward would be favored to beat Golovkin because he's a very good fighter and bigger. Ward had to move up to 175 later in his career because he was having trouble making weight. Throwing in his dirty fighting that does not get penalized for would make it very difficult for Golovkin gain any traction in the fight.

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Old 02-05-2020, 12:24 PM #106
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Golovkin didn't live up to the hype = Hype job. TBF he was never going to, his tarded fans were calling him a ATG better than Hagler after beating Lemieux.
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It's simple, if Golovkin "didn't live up to the hype" then Alvarez, being a "great fighter" (in his prime), should have dominated him, so Alvarez and GGG are both hype jobs , according to you.
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Old 02-05-2020, 12:31 PM #107
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I really don't care much about weights within 10 to 20 pounds between fighters. That's what we are seeing now anyway. I don't follow the belt orgs' weight classifications. Hurd should be fighting at lightheavy.

Even now, if the top fighters are within 20 pounds, I'm cool with it. This is fighting, boxing, machismo. Can't be too soft if you are a boxing fan (not talking about you).
If everyone follows the weight rules as laid out by the Alphabet groups then there is a somewhat level playing field. That way we know who is the best I that weight class(if they actually fight). It's not perfect but it's consistent Boxers can get big money for cutting weight and I can't blame them. I don't consider catchweights fights for titles legitimate. I've felt that way since Donny Lalonde fought SRR for two titles in one fight. It was a great fight and I'm glad I saw it but I didn't consider Leonard a true 175 pound champion when he beat Lalonde. That's my own personal view.
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Old 02-05-2020, 12:34 PM #108
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One thing people tend to forget about a prime Golovkin is his ability to cut/injure guys. Multiple opponents throughout the years were stopped due to cuts and injuries or had cuts before ultimately getting stopped. That kind of power is always a game changer. He's still heavy handed enough to cut guys, as he did with Both Canelo and Derev but that snap that he used to have made his punches so much more devastating.

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Old 02-05-2020, 01:36 PM #109
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All the belts is my dream = Turned out to be bull****.
Anyone from 154-168 = Turned out to be bull****.
Mexican Style = You guessed it, bull****.


How has the hype job still got fans, clowns were repeating this nonsense he came out with and it was all bullshit. Have some self respect FFS, he made you all fools.
The bigger question would be why do you care?

I still like the dude even though I couldn't be bothered watching his shittier fights and have been deeply critical of his opponent selection in a few cases. Fighters say shit that ends up not happening on the regular and good fights don't happen all the time - more often than not in fact, and I sure as fuck wouldn't stop following another fighter because he fell short of his goals or even didn't try as hard as he might to get 'em, so why would I particularly care about Golovkin? More interestingly why would you? You ain't even a fan...
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I like watching the dude fight when he got someone decent in front of him and that's pretty much all that matters to me... all the rest can be spun as you please. You say he was lying from the start, I reckon his priorities just changed, though TBH I don't care much either way.
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