Wilder's punch is for real. But Ortiz is and always was crap

[LacedUp]

Originally Posted by uppercut510

yes a lot of people said that sir

No one said that.

However, I will remind everyone how much stick I got only a few years ago for saying Dillian Whyte would beat Carlos Takam.

Back then Takam was apparently way too good for Whyte, but ever since he lost to AJ he's become a journeyman.

So it goes both ways, let's not forget that.

[satiev1]

Originally Posted by lacedup

for the top level.

He's slow as hell and it was embarrassingly obvious that this guy couldn't do anything to wilder.

Wilder was patient, patient, patient and bang, that's it. That's what separates a pretender from a champion.

Ortiz got paid tonight, good for him. But please, for the love of god, we should all appreciate that this guy simply never was anywhere near what these wilder fanboys wanted us to believe he was.

A 6 rounds slow plodder with a decent left counter.

ortiz is a glorified journeyman

[LacedUp]

Originally Posted by Cutthroat

How many knockdowns were there? How many times was Jennings hurt? How many times has Wlad been out landed by 40 power punches? The rounds Wlad won were not dominating rounds at all.

Like I said, you could take any fighter from any division, do what BJ did & it'd immediately elevate them to top 5 easy.

Ortiz has outperformed multiple fighters in his weight class against similar opposition.

Haye outlanded Wlad in power punches. Tony thompson went the distance, as did Ibragimov and others.

I think you need to understand boxing better. Wlad literally had zero interest in that fight, went through the motions and quite simply had an easy night with Jennings who barely won a few rounds.

To think that one decisive points loss would be used by Wilder's idiotic fanboys to big him up 7 years later is just unreal dumb.

But that sums Wilder's fanboys pretty well

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[QueensburyRules]

Originally Posted by satiev1

ortiz is a glorified journeyman

- - He's Cubano!

[CubanGuyNYC]

Originally Posted by satiev1

ortiz is a glorified journeyman

“Glorified journeyman.” Lol

Ortiz may not be that great, but he’s no journeyman, glorified or not.

[TheUptownKid]

Originally Posted by daggum

joshua just tried to fight him and offered him 7 million which is what haymon matched so he wouldn't help dazn. how is that not wanting to fight him? i know wilder said the same thing but its nonsense.

Joshua tried to fight him on short notice which isn’t the same thing esp for an aging fighter

[daggum]

Originally Posted by TheUptownKid

Joshua tried to fight him on short notice which isn’t the same thing esp for an aging fighter

yeah because ortiz needs to train super hard? also ortiz called joshua out after miller dropped out so why do that if you aren't ready to fight?

[Cutthroat]

Originally Posted by LacedUp

Haye outlanded Wlad in power punches. Tony thompson went the distance, as did Ibragimov and others.

I think you need to understand boxing better. Wlad literally had zero interest in that fight, went through the motions and quite simply had an easy night with Jennings who barely won a few rounds.

To think that one decisive points loss would be used by Wilder's idiotic fanboys to big him up 7 years later is just unreal dumb.

But that sums Wilder's fanboys pretty well

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Haye-Wlad wasn't as competitive as Jennings-Wlad lmao, Haye got out landed by nearly 50 punches.

Ibragimov BARELY escaped, be got dropped & hurt about 3 separate times.

Tony Thompson got stopped twice.

You're just listing fights without context lol. NONE performed as well as Jennings. The last guy to do so was Sam Peter back in like 2005.

[LacedUp]

Originally Posted by Cutthroat

Haye-Wlad wasn't as competitive as Jennings-Wlad lmao, Haye got out landed by nearly 50 punches.

Ibragimov BARELY escaped, be got dropped & hurt about 3 separate times.

Tony Thompson got stopped twice.

You're just listing fights without context lol. NONE performed as well as Jennings. The last guy to do so was Sam Peter back in like 2005.

Haye out landed Wlad in power shots, that's a fact, so what you're saying is complete fiction.

Jennings is a beast, you're right. Beating him 5 years ago would be reason enough for anyone to maintain a top 5 ranking

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[LacedUp]

Originally Posted by TheUptownKid

Joshua tried to fight him on short notice which isn’t the same thing esp for an aging fighter

He was offered the fight on 7 weeks notice which is the same time he got for the first Wilder fight. And let's not forget he said he would step in AND take the fight for free

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