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Old 11-20-2019, 06:27 PM #21
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If he does all that he would have to be considered very good. Going by his last fight against a really lousy heavyweight I don't think he will do all that. I think he loses to the best heavyweights.
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:35 PM #22
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Wonít happen so not even worth the energy of fathoming.

Hypothetically if USYK beat Wilder, Fury and Joshua Iíd rank him high but still not above Ray Robinson or Duran.
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:40 PM #23
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This era ain't bad, Klitschko's reign era was bad.

Wilder, Fury, AJ, Ruiz are all tough contenders and we got more coming. Dubois and etc
This is one of the weakest eras in the history of the division

The division has (relative) names like Joshua, but the talent just isnít there

Tail-end career Klitschko almost had Joshua out of there

Wilder has been shown to be nothing but a loud mouth

Fury, whilst heís arguably beaten Wilder and older Wlad, hasnít shown the class he might be capable of

You call the Klitschko era bad, but the virtue of having Wlad and Vitali in the division makes it a lot better than what we have now
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:49 PM #24
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He'd be at an ATG level, but not one of the best. This is a weak era for the heavies.
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:53 PM #25
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It's highly unlikely unless he's roided to ****, too many good, dangerous fighters.
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:55 PM #26
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Its a toss up both are average, its still dawning the new big man era of super heavy so a skilled smaller man can beat them, Fury is probably the toughest to beat for Usyk because of the skills with that size, the others he just dont want to get hit clean.
Well said...I agree, good post.
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:56 PM #27
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This is one of the weakest eras in the history of the division

The division has (relative) names like Joshua, but the talent just isnít there

Tail-end career Klitschko almost had Joshua out of there

Wilder has been shown to be nothing but a loud mouth

Fury, whilst heís arguably beaten Wilder and older Wlad, hasnít shown the class he might be capable of

You call the Klitschko era bad, but the virtue of having Wlad and Vitali in the division makes it a lot better than what we have now
Yeah when one guy is so dominant, as Wlad was, it is hard to say how good or bad that era is sometimes.
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:03 PM #28
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This is one of the weakest eras in the history of the division

The division has (relative) names like Joshua, but the talent just isnít there

Tail-end career Klitschko almost had Joshua out of there

Wilder has been shown to be nothing but a loud mouth

Fury, whilst heís arguably beaten Wilder and older Wlad, hasnít shown the class he might be capable of

You call the Klitschko era bad, but the virtue of having Wlad and Vitali in the division makes it a lot better than what we have now
Nah. Wilder, Fury, and Joshua all beat fresh Wlad too. Wlad is used to fighting weak opposition whether they're short and have no chance or tall and no talent.


Wlad wasn't like any older fighter either, he had a lot left. He just finally fought quality people who are his size. This division just got a whole lot better and entertaining. Can't wait to see who the top dog is in 3 years.
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:03 PM #29
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If beats Wilder, Joshua, Ruiz, Fury, etc

Where would you put him as far as greatness?

I don't think he'll make it through Wilder IMO, these heavyweights these days are too darn big and powerful

But if he managed verse much larger foes, that'd be an easy HOF
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:04 PM #30
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It's highly unlikely unless he's roided to ****, too many good, dangerous fighters.
Most athletes are on something.. maybe he can do a mini Holyfield
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