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Old 07-10-2019, 07:30 PM #41
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1 Susie-Q (Marciano)
2 Bolo punch (Kid Gavilan)
3 Solar plexus punch (Fitzsimmons)
4 Phantom punch (Clay)
5 The Smash (Ruddock)
6 Two handed ear smash (James T. Kirk)
7 Scissors Punch (Battling Nelson)
8 Corkscrew Punch (Kid Mccoy)
- -Fitz the first Phantom punch that morphed into the first solar plexus that has fallen out of style.

Look at young clay throwing for the cameras. A snapping twist at the end that cut up many, a corkscrew.

There has also long been the bludgeon style of young George, the difference between a horse whip and a lead pipe.
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Old 07-12-2019, 01:51 PM #42
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We have 8 fine punches with names now. My own particular favorite is the Kirk open-palm ear smash. A classic, and a deadly technique, by Moslem buggery!
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Old 07-20-2019, 06:32 AM #43
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I learned of a new punch with a name from one of the Tunney articles Bill posted links to. It is now included:

1 Susie-Q (Marciano)
2 Bolo punch (Kid Gavilan)
3 Solar plexus punch (Fitzsimmons)
4 Phantom punch (Clay)
5 The Smash (Ruddock)
6 Two handed ear smash (James T. Kirk)
7 Scissors Punch (Battling Nelson)
8 Corkscrew Punch (Kid Mccoy)
9 Mary Ann (Frank Moran)
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When Shoji Kimura fought Chris John, they both insisted they would deck the other with a SPECIAL punch. Kimura had a left cross his trainer taught him: 'The Hanagata Punch'

Chris John countered by declaring he had 'The Dragon Punch...a very fast punch full of fire.'

But neither fighter actually had an impressive KO percentage, and the fight went the distance. Kimura lost and never fought again. John retired after three more fights.

How about a punch called "CLARA?"

It might be poetic license, though.

The poet Adrian Matejka wrote "The Big Smoke" a series of poems about Jack Johnson written as if by Johnson himself. (A photo of Jack is on the cover of the book). Matejka has Johnson calling his left hook "Clara," after Clara Wells, a black prostitute who became his lover for a while. She cheated on him and ran away with a friend of his, William Bryant. The new couple stole some jewelry from him before they left. Jack chased them, and got the cops on them for theft. Clara eventually came back to Jack for a while:

"I took a train all the way to St. Louis
to get her back, just so she could take
the rest of my money & leave again."

Having already had some miseries with another woman, Mary Austin, Jack insisted he was through with black women: "...the heartaches which Mary Austin and Clara Kerr caused me led me to forswear colored women and to determine that my lot henceforth would be cast only with white women."

But did he cease trying to hit guys in the ring with a "Clara?"
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Old 07-20-2019, 06:03 PM #45
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A great literary idea, but we don't know if Johnson himself called his lefhook Clara. That could have been the author's invention.
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- -By the time of 4. phantom punch that was a sportswriter invention, Clay was Ali and he called it The Anchor Punch taught by StepinFetchit.

When you gonna get with the program?
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All right, I'm with your program, then, by Moslem buggery, lad, if it will calm you:

1 Susie-Q (Marciano)
2 Bolo punch (Kid Gavilan)
3 Solar plexus punch (Fitzsimmons)
4 Phantom/Anchor punch (Clay)
5 The Smash (Ruddock)
6 Two handed ear smash (James T. Kirk)
7 Scissors Punch (Battling Nelson)
8 Corkscrew Punch (Kid Mccoy)
9 Mary Ann (Frank Moran)
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A great literary idea, but we don't know if Johnson himself called his lefhook Clara. That could have been the author's invention.
Quite true, the line between fiction and non-fiction can blur.

We read a reporter's version of a fight and sometimes it's not the way we saw it.

That's why I was impressed with Norman Mailer. In "When We Were Kings" his observations of the fight were quoted while we could see the action, and they matched up very well, and enhanced the action.

Like Babe Ruth calling his shot, or not, writers, like all eye witnesses can see what happened, think they see what happened, or claim to see something they wish happened.

My favorite poet of boxing remains Joseph Moncure March, who may have been the first rapper. "The Set Up" was made into a classic boxing film. It's one long poem with dramatic rhymes and cadences. His previous book, "The Wild Party" turned up on Broadway via two conflicting musicals that somehow premiered around the same time. (Both were ko'd at the box office).
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Quite true, the line between fiction and non-fiction can blur.

We read a reporter's version of a fight and sometimes it's not the way we saw it.

That's why I was impressed with Norman Mailer. In "When We Were Kings" his observations of the fight were quoted while we could see the action, and they matched up very well, and enhanced the action.

Like Babe Ruth calling his shot, or not, writers, like all eye witnesses can see what happened, think they see what happened, or claim to see something they wish happened.

My favorite poet of boxing remains Joseph Moncure March, who may have been the first rapper. "The Set Up" was made into a classic boxing film. It's one long poem with dramatic rhymes and cadences. His previous book, "The Wild Party" turned up on Broadway via two conflicting musicals that somehow premiered around the same time. (Both were ko'd at the box office).
- -Glass chinned smack yakkers a dime a dozen these days.
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- -Glass chinned smack yakkers a dime a dozen these days.
Glass chinned, and tin-hearted!
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