Egyptian/Italian Girl Killed by UK Black Girls and the System

[soul_survivor]

She was an Italian National.

Italy healthcare stats are better than the UK, it's undeniable that their system is better.

Everything I've read has pointed to her being an Egyptian national. Does Italy allow dual nationality?

Also, which stats show that Italy's healthcare is better than Britain? I'd love to see them, with quoted sources.

[D4thincarnation]

Everything I've read has pointed to her being an Egyptian national. Does Italy allow dual nationality?

Also, which stats show that Italy's healthcare is better than Britain? I'd love to see them, with quoted sources.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2223rank.html

Maternal Mortality Rate

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...rn-Europe.html

Cancer survival rate.


http://www.who.int/gho/health_workfo...ns_density/en/

Doctors per a capita.


Italy all superior

[soul_survivor]

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2223rank.html

Maternal Mortality Rate

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...rn-Europe.html

Cancer survival rate.


http://www.who.int/gho/health_workfo...ns_density/en/

Doctors per a capita.


Italy all superior

So maternal mortality and cancer survival rates are the only indicator for a better health service. How about length of stay in hospital? How about post op care? How about access to medication? How about prescription medication not costing an arm and a leg?

It would be better to judge a health system in its entirety, which is what the Commonwealth Fund has done. iT is one of the most influential and well regarded think tanks on the planet, and for the second year running, the NHS finished top of the global league table. That's right, number one.

The rankings take in data from the OECD and WHO (you should know what these are) and have healthcare ranked across 5 categories: Ease of access to healthcare, equality of access, administrative efficiency, results and the quality of the care process for patients.

The UK topped 3 of those 5 categories and showed the most improvement in results overt he last 10 years. Its closest competitors are Australia, the Netherlands and New Zealand, followed by Norway, Switzerland, Sweden and Germany. Italy isn't even in the same league.

Link https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a7841226.html

[D4thincarnation]

So maternal mortality and cancer survival rates are the only indicator for a better health service. How about length of stay in hospital? How about post op care? How about access to medication? How about prescription medication not costing an arm and a leg?

It would be better to judge a health system in its entirety, which is what the Commonwealth Fund has done. iT is one of the most influential and well regarded think tanks on the planet, and for the second year running, the NHS finished top of the global league table. That's right, number one.

The rankings take in data from the OECD and WHO (you should know what these are) and have healthcare ranked across 5 categories: Ease of access to healthcare, equality of access, administrative efficiency, results and the quality of the care process for patients.

The UK topped 3 of those 5 categories and showed the most improvement in results overt he last 10 years. Its closest competitors are Australia, the Netherlands and New Zealand, followed by Norway, Switzerland, Sweden and Germany. Italy isn't even in the same league.

Link https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a7841226.html

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/inte...mirror-mirror/

Healthcare outcomes the NHS is the 2nd lowest in that table only to the US.

Also they only took data from only 11 healthcare systems not including Italy.

[soul_survivor]

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/inte...mirror-mirror/

Healthcare outcomes the NHS is the 2nd lowest in that table only to the US.

Also they only took data from only 11 healthcare systems not including Italy.

I know but that's only 1 in 5 of the categories and as the think tank explains, the UK has seen the largest increase in outcomes over the last ten years. The NHS tops 3 of the 5 categories. So overall no one else is better, so rather than picking and choosing your points, can you actually explain why Italy is better?

I don't even understand your obsession with Italy. It is regarded as Europe's third world, that's why it isn't brought up in comparisons. Italy, no offence, is nothing. A broken, por European state. Comparatively speaking with UK, Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark in mind of course.

[D4thincarnation]

I know but that's only 1 in 5 of the categories and as the think tank explains, the UK has seen the largest increase in outcomes over the last ten years. The NHS tops 3 of the 5 categories. So overall no one else is better, so rather than picking and choosing your points, can you actually explain why Italy is better?

I don't even understand your obsession with Italy. It is regarded as Europe's third world, that's why it isn't brought up in comparisons. Italy, no offence, is nothing. A broken, por European state. Comparatively speaking with UK, Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark in mind of course.

Outcomes is the most important category.
The largest increase and still the 2nd worst, tells you how bad they were.

In the 11 countries the choose, under arbitrary scoring system.

No, obsession, this case just highlights the failings of the NHS and how this girl got the care she needed in Italy.

You seemed to doubt Italy's superior health system.

I provided you with empirical evidence of their superiority in certain health fields.

You provided a subjective study with only 1 out of the 5 criteria that is to do with health and that one the NHS came last.

[maracho]

Socialized medicine is more about protecting their image while the politicians protect their interests in foriegn investments like big oil