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Old 02-05-2018, 12:05 PM #91
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Thats what Im afraid of??? Now all i need is Roach to put the final death stamp on Canelo.
just bring Buddy McGirt in to work Canelo’s corner if you want to be extra-extra sure.
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:14 PM #92
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He beat super talented nelo so how can GGG be overrated?
Nelo might beat GGG in rematch just like Floyd did against Castillo. Like PAC did against morales and bradley
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:14 PM #93
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He beat super talented nelo so how can GGG be overrated?
Nelo might beat GGG in rematch just like Floyd did against Castillo. Like PAC did against morales and bradley
Ward in Kovalov rematch...
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:15 PM #94
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just bring Buddy McGirt in to work Canelo’s corner if you want to be extra-extra sure.
Lol. Yeah Canelo might as well not even show up.
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:33 PM #95
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ima fan of both. im just sayin when ppl like atlas call ggg overrated they are actually *****ting on canelo and dont even realize it.

as far as who won. put it like this the majority of observers said ggg won. same thing as ward/kovalev 1.

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Teddy Atlas ——————————–> 118-110 GGG
Brian Campbell (CBS) ———————> 117-111 GGG
Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) —————→ 117-111 GGG
Harold Lederman (HBO) ——————> 116-112 GGG
Dan Rafael (ESPN) ————————> 116-112 GGG
Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ————> 116-112 GGG
Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) ———–> 116-112 GGG
Amir Khan ———————————> 116-112 GGG
Matthew Macklin ————————–> 116-112 GGG
Steve Lillis (BoxNation) ——————→ 116-112 GGG
Bob Velin (USA Today) ——————–> 116-112 GGG
Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) ———–> 116-112 GGG
Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ———→ 116-112 GGG
Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) —→ 116-112 GGG
Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ———→ 116-112 GGG
Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ————> 116-113 GGG
Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ——————> 115-112 GGG
Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ————————> 115-113 GGG
Gary Locket ——————————→ 115-113 GGG
Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) —————–> 115-113 GGG
Phil Murphy (ESPN) ———————–> 115-113 GGG
Mike Harris (SI) —————————> 115-113 GGG
Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ——> 115-113 GGG
MMA Brazil ———————————> 115-113 GGG
Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) ————→ 115-113 GGG
Rob Tatum (Combat Press) —————→ 115-113 GGG
Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ———> 115-113 GGG
Joel Diaz ————————————> 115-113 GGG
Max Kellerman__________________> 115:113 GGG
Dave Moretti (judge) ______________> 115:113 GGG
Lennox Lewis ——————————> Golovkin
Austin Trout ——————————–> Golovkin
Danny Jacobs_________________> Golovkin
Enzo Macarenelli —————————> Golovkin
James Brady (SB Nation) ——————> Golovkin
Terence Crawford —————————> Golovkin
Sergio Martinez —————————–> Golovkin
Liam Smith ———————————> Golovkin
Peter Quillin ——————————–> Golovkin
Liam Williams ——————————> Golovkin
Ohara Davies ——————————→ Golovkin
Luke Campbell —————————–> Golovkin
Dave Coldwell ——————————> Golovkin
Badou Jack ———————————> Golovkin
Kevin Kelly ————————→ Golovkin
Dana White ________________> Golovkin
Steve Kim ———————————–> Golovkin
Doug Fischer ——————————–> Golovkin
Ring TV Cynthia Conte, M.Rosenthal———————→ Golovkin
Michael Montero —————————→ Golovkin
Joe Rogan (UFC) —————————→ Golovkin
Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) ————> Golovkin
Kovalev ————————————→ Golovkin
Chavez Jr ———————————–> Golovkin
Don trella (judge) _________________________> 114:114 Draw
Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) —→ 114-114 Draw
Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) ———–> 114-114 Draw
Boxing Clever (Seen) ———————> 114-114 Draw
Associated Press ————————–> 114-114 Draw
Lance Pugmire (LA Times) —————→ 114-114 Draw
Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ———————> 114-114 Draw
Roy jones jr.____________________> 114:114 Draw
Kenny Porter ——————————> 114-114 Draw
Tommy hearns __________________> 114:114 Draw
De La Hoya ——————————–> 115-113 Canelo
Bernard Hopkins ————————–> 115-113 Canelo
Erik Morales ——————————→ 116-112 Canelo
Chavez Sr ———————————> 116:112 Canelo
Adalaide Byrd (Judge) _____________> 118:110 Canelo


GGG won: 54
Draw: 10
Canelo won: 5
And look at some of those cards??? 116-113??? How does that even add up?? Or how about 115-112???

Now lets see whats left???

15 has GGG more than 1 round. That leaves 37 (71%) saying GGG won by 1 round!!!!

10 Draw

5 Canelo.

I rest my case.... Wow!!! Robbery i think NOT!
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:40 PM #96
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And if you look at who's who the ones that know boxing had it 7 rounds to 5 or LESS!!! Outside of fat dan i dont respect any one of those quacks cards that had ggg winning by more than 1 round.
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:44 PM #97
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Atlas says Golovkin clearly won the first fight, but he's slipping, so Canelo should win the rematch easily. That's a huge swing. Is Golovkin slipping so much, or is Atlas?

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Old 02-05-2018, 01:16 PM #98
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He didn't make it look so easy the first go around tho
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Kind of like the "intelligent" fight fans of Canelo claiming he beat GGG? Kind of like all the MEXICAN fight fans that booed Reds candy ass effort? LOL!! No, you're not a "casual"...lol!
YOU have your opinion yoshik but my is a fact, you just proved it with your response.
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White boxers like Ggg, Klitschko vrothers, Kovalev, Lomachenko will never get their credit because of the racism and corruption that controls boxing. Lebox Lewis was losing to Vitali Klitschko and the ref called an early stoppage due to a cut. Kovalev god robbed in the 1st fight qgaibst Ward and lost by a nut punch abd corruption in the 2nd fight. Ggg is about to break Bernard Hopkins 160 title defense record. Wlad Klitschko dominated heavyweight for many years. Loma appears to be the best boxer on the planet. Yet still people always find a way to try to discredit them, even using their robberies as examples. People cant deal with the fact that Eastern Europeans are starting to take over the game.
Every boxing fan on ALL boxing sights "discredit" ALL boxers - there are NO EXCEPTIONS!! Some have good points while the vast majority don't......"Eastern Europeans" sometimes catch flack because when they fight they tend to fight one dimensionally - coming straight up the middle - many times NOT even cutting off the ring - which is in itself ARTISTIC!

I for one think thats NOT GOOD! Why??! Because the history of boxing has shown us that there are slicker more mobile artistic ways to outmaneuver good strong opposition (aforementioned cutting off the ring for example) - I believe theres an all around "better" way of fighting - no racism in that observation like your racist "sounding" comment.....

Boxing also has to have that entertainment factor (for the fans watching) - not just "get the job done" for the win however possible, and of course that (entertainment) can be subjective depending on styles one may like over another! Joe Calzaghe, Billy Joe Saunders, Paul Spadafora, Tyson Fury, etc., are europeans that have caught that "artistic or slick" way to dismantle come forward rock em' sock em' one dimensional fighters......I believe that a "better quality" fighter are those that I pointed out -.... if thats what u consider "corruption" then so be it.....

Good fighters with more dimensions to their game should be "starting to take over the game," not any particular race or place.....those fighters that know their strengths and make the most of it - even changing up their styles for particular opposition.......

Wladimir will ALWAYS be boring to me but he will receive his respect from me due to his hard work & reign as champ......he should have been able to take on ANY style even if he lost on points, instead he HUGGED & CLINCHED opponents to death when he got nervous or in trouble! Am I "discredit"ing him because he's european - NO! But his style is somewhat what is common in Europe! But we DO KNOW, all europeans DON'T ALWAYS have to fight in a european "style".....no racism in that...
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