Whose loss in big fights were better? Oscar or Cotto?

[The_Sandman]

Cotto's loss...

Margarito (plaster)
Pacquiao
Mayweather
Canelo
Trout (even though this wasn't really a big fight)

Oscar's loss...

Trinidad
Mosley 2x
Hopkins
Mayweather
Pacquiao

Me personally, I think the loss in big fights were better for Oscar. Just because he had Hopkins and Trinidad in there. But at the same time, we can say Canelo was Cotto's Trinidad. Oscar did better against Floyd than Cotto did, but Cotto did better than Oscar against Pacquiao. I think the only thing that ruins it for Cotto is Trout. So I'm going to say Oscar had the better loss.

[mneronava2k]

Why asterisk the Margarito loss with "plaster"? No proof. We can't go back and say every Margarito win was done via plaster.

Cotto is a choke artist. He's a diva. And the fact that he's wildly popular actually does his career a disservice. He plays games, and posture due to his rabid fanbase. He's overrated and probably shouldn't be in those big fights.

I'm no fan of Oscar either (although I do like him as a promoter). But, he gave away the Tito fight, and the Mosley losses were tough and close fights. Besides the Manny beat down, and BHop catching him--he didn't lose as bad as Kneegul quitting, getting mopped by Manny and outboxed by Canelo

[Slip Stream]

Why asterisk the Margarito loss with "plaster"? No proof. We can't go back and say every Margarito win was done via plaster.

Cotto is a choke artist. He's a diva. And the fact that he's wildly popular actually does his career a disservice. He plays games, and posture due to his rabid fanbase. He's overrated and probably shouldn't be in those big fights.

I'm no fan of Oscar either (although I do like him as a promoter). But, he gave away the Tito fight, and the Mosley losses were tough and close fights. Besides the Manny beat down, and BHop catching him--he didn't lose as bad as Kneegul quitting, getting mopped by Manny and outboxed by Canelo

Stop it, what, so Margarito decided to start using plaster against Mosley because Mosley was the bigger threat? That punk ass cheat was working his drywall magic well before that, it's naive to believe anything else.

[soul_survivor]

Cotto's loss...

Margarito (plaster)
Pacquiao
Mayweather
Canelo
Trout (even though this wasn't really a big fight)

Oscar's loss...

Trinidad
Mosley 2x
Hopkins
Mayweather
Pacquiao

Me personally, I think the loss in big fights were better for Oscar. Just because he had Hopkins and Trinidad in there. But at the same time, we can say Canelo was Cotto's Trinidad. Oscar did better against Floyd than Cotto did, but Cotto did better than Oscar against Pacquiao. I think the only thing that ruins it for Cotto is Trout. So I'm going to say Oscar had the better loss.

Oscar actually won some big fights and in some cases, spectacularly so.

Cotto only really has Martinez, who doesn't rank close to Whitaker or Chavez and other than that...there's Mosley maybe ?

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Oscar actually won some big fights and in some cases, spectacularly so.

Cotto only really has Martinez, who doesn't rank close to Whitaker or Chavez and other than that...there's Mosley maybe ?

and oscar in reality beat triniwraps too.

so.,

[ElMeroChingon]

Stop it, what, so Margarito decided to start using plaster against Mosley because Mosley was the bigger threat? That punk ass cheat was working his drywall magic well before that, it's naive to believe anything else.

Then you have to be fair and put a * on Tito, we don't know if he was wrapping his wraps illegally for the rest of his fights either, you have to be naive not to think he did so. Boxers actually said Titos wraps were unusually hard as a rock.

Have to be fair.

[Bozbay]

Cotto's loss...

Margarito (plaster)
Pacquiao
Mayweather
Canelo
Trout (even though this wasn't really a big fight)

Oscar's loss...

Trinidad
Mosley 2x
Hopkins
Mayweather
Pacquiao

Me personally, I think the loss in big fights were better for Oscar. Just because he had Hopkins and Trinidad in there. But at the same time, we can say Canelo was Cotto's Trinidad. Oscar did better against Floyd than Cotto did, but Cotto did better than Oscar against Pacquiao. I think the only thing that ruins it for Cotto is Trout. So I'm going to say Oscar had the better loss.

I think the influence of losses is judged mainly in comparison to a fighter's wins. In effect, Oscar's losses don't seem so bad when you look at the fighters he beat. Cotto's wins aren't as impressive, which makes his losses look even worse. I agree, Oscar has the better losses.

[Bram]

Oscar's losses, all of them, were to HOF's and 4 of them were after he turned 30. Gotta go with Oscar.

[juandabomb]

Why asterisk the Margarito loss with "plaster"? No proof. We can't go back and say every Margarito win was done via plaster.

Cotto is a choke artist. He's a diva. And the fact that he's wildly popular actually does his career a disservice. He plays games, and posture due to his rabid fanbase. He's overrated and probably shouldn't be in those big fights.

I'm no fan of Oscar either (although I do like him as a promoter). But, he gave away the Tito fight, and the Mosley losses were tough and close fights. Besides the Manny beat down, and BHop catching him--he didn't lose as bad as Kneegul quitting, getting mopped by Manny and outboxed by Canelo

You hit alot of real points, manny vs oscar was lost on the scales. Not weighing 147 in nearly 8 yrs isnt easy. Mosley was juiced vs oscar.Yes no proof on margaritos plaster vs cotto. Cotto only beat him in the rematch because manny gave him the gift of permanently damaging tonys eye.cotto is a diva and has been overrated,wins where his opponents are compromised.

[Bardock]

Then you have to be fair and put a * on Tito, we don't know if he was wrapping his wraps illegally for the rest of his fights either, you have to be naive not to think he did so. Boxers actually said Titos wraps were unusually hard as a rock.

Have to be fair.

Trinidad Sr. himself said they always have, and always will wrap Tito's hands that way after he got caught.