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Old 05-03-2005, 06:50 PM #11
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I also heard that creatine may hurt your kidneys. Is this true at all?
I'm not sure, and I don't use the supplement. I know people who've used it, and they had to piss all the time. It was ridiculous.

Other supplements that might help enlarge muscles, aside from steroids, are things like Nitric Oxide, and such. I know some people on that, and they claim it's added size to their biceps, and such. I saw an article in a bodybuilding magazine that told a bit about it. It doesn't seem to hurt you. It can widen the arteries, and allow more blood flow to the muscles, which can help to increase reps, the benefits of which are obvious.
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:50 PM #12
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I took both creatine and ripped fuel. Creatine retains water in your muscles so you WILL look bigger even though your muscles are simple pumped up with water. With "bigger" muscles, you ARE able to push or pull heavier weights which in turn will produce real muscles. But once your off creatine, your muscles deplete dramatically. Follow the intake instructions on the label, try 2 months on 2 months off so you don't acquire muscle dependancy on that ****. I never tried the loading phase but that's up to you. DRINK WATER....A LOT. Very important.


Ripped Fuel is scary. You simply don't get tired. You don't. My cardio was pretty ****ty and normally I'd be wheezing after 20 min on a treadmill. When I took this, I was running for 45 min non stop. I was also able to increase reps in my weight training without fatigue.
BUT here's the catch. I heard Ripped Fuel liquified your blood so oxygen flows faster, therefore your muscles don't get tired as fast. It revs your heart as well, giving you this sudden surge of energy. It's far from healthy though, anything with a mixture of ephedrine and cafeine should be avoided. I stopped after two bottles cuz my heart started to rev for no reason when I watched television. Scary ****...

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Old 05-04-2005, 02:46 PM #13
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This is interesting. I was looking for the website for the protein bar I use post workout, Methoxy-Pro. It contains 30 grams of Protein, every amino acid necessary, and Creatine. When I went to Methoxy-Pro.com, it brought me to a site that says HGH Human Growth Hormone. Hmmm.....
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I just use Creatine when I have a hard workout (more than usual). Other than that, I stay away from as much external substances as I can. But that's just me...
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ok your body enters a window of opportunity period right after you do whatever it is your doing(it lasts approx. one hour), a few sets, a few rounds on the bag, whatever...after you do ,say, 3 rounds on the heavy bag, do 2 30sec nonstop mexican-style rounds on the bag. if your lifting, do like 2-3 sets then a superset, strain yourself, whatever it is your doing- even the med ball, say your doin sets with it to start out, do 2-3 sets then like just violently throw it nonstop..force your metabolism to skyrocket and tire out a muscle group

after that have a 200gram(i weight 230 lb, 1.5grams per pound of bodyweight is what it's supposed to be, but that's just too much protein for me..if ur like 150 drink 120 grams) protein drink waiting for you, you dont wanna cool down..chug it and work speedbag til the drink goes down a bit

the window of opportunity pretty much means that the protein consumed within that time is more absorbed into the previously worked muscle groups, not only making recovery faster but also maximizing your potential muscle gain from the workout...

it's really best to try to do squats, the med. ball, then do bagwork, then med.ball again, then speedbag, then chug the shake, you should be finished with all that in under 40min..it's best to do that way because all those used muscles will be affected by the protein



so just do that and forget creatine and all that other ****, it's all about how hard you train and the protein, baby...l-glutamine sups are all you need for recovery, trust me.


PS- a serious fighter who dabbles in creatine is WAYYY MORE LIKELY to have 'bad nights' on fight night than the other all-natural guy..

and as for ripped fuel and all that energy ****..**** that stuff...what I do is just eat a massive, fattening breakfast(bacon, eggs, sausage,biscuits...)...and it gives me hella energy for a full day of training, however I don't have a 12 pack,either..On the days where I really push it and go like 8-10 hours of training sometimes I'll get tired around 1-2pm, i'll just have like two sips of coffee and my energy level goes right back up to where it was like 3 hours after my breakfast

pps- if you try my breakfast..don't drink o.j. with it, drink water...unless you like heartburn in the middle of training ;o

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ok your body enters a window of opportunity period right after you do whatever it is your doing(it lasts approx. one hour), a few sets, a few rounds on the bag, whatever...after you do ,say, 3 rounds on the heavy bag, do 2 30sec nonstop mexican-style rounds on the bag. if your lifting, do like 2-3 sets then a superset, strain yourself, whatever it is your doing- even the med ball, say your doin sets with it to start out, do 2-3 sets then like just violently throw it nonstop..force your metabolism to skyrocket and tire out a muscle group

after that have a 200gram(i weight 230 lb, 1.5grams per pound of bodyweight is what it's supposed to be, but that's just too much protein for me..if ur like 150 drink 120 grams) protein drink waiting for you, you dont wanna cool down..chug it and work speedbag til the drink goes down a bit

the window of opportunity pretty much means that the protein consumed within that time is more absorbed into the previously worked muscle groups, not only making recovery faster but also maximizing your potential muscle gain from the workout...

it's really best to try to do squats, the med. ball, then do bagwork, then med.ball again, then speedbag, then chug the shake, you should be finished with all that in under 40min..it's best to do that way because all those used muscles will be affected by the protein



so just do that and forget creatine and all that other ****, it's all about how hard you train and the protein, baby...l-glutamine sups are all you need for recovery, trust me.


PS- a serious fighter who dabbles in creatine is WAYYY MORE LIKELY to have 'bad nights' on fight night than the other all-natural guy..

and as for ripped fuel and all that energy ****..**** that stuff...what I do is just eat a massive, fattening breakfast(bacon, eggs, sausage,biscuits...)...and it gives me hella energy for a full day of training, however I don't have a 12 pack,either..On the days where I really push it and go like 8-10 hours of training sometimes I'll get tired around 1-2pm, i'll just have like two sips of coffee and my energy level goes right back up to where it was like 3 hours after my breakfast

pps- if you try my breakfast..don't drink o.j. with it, drink water...unless you like heartburn in the middle of training ;o

this some nice info...
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after that have a 200gram(i weight 230 lb, 1.5grams per pound of bodyweight is what it's supposed to be, but that's just too much protein for me..if ur like 150 drink 120 grams) protein drink waiting for you, you dont wanna cool down..chug it and work speedbag til the drink goes down a bit
DO NOT take all that protein at once like this guy. Most you should take is about 50g of protein in one "meal". I don't even know how you get 200 grams in one drink...
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