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Old 05-16-2019, 09:47 PM #32621
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:58 PM #32622
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That's not what the conversation was about. It was about whether it has been proven that he is innocent.

As for the question of whether the legal threshold has been met to say a crime has been committed, isn't that why the unredacted report has been requested?
Nope, itís not in the report. It is however the focus of Barrís investigation, and got the democrats very scared, making those rats turn on each other.
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:27 PM #32623
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Of course we can say he's innocent. We can't even say a crime has been committed
How can you possibly know if he is innocent or guilty if all of the information hasn't been reviewed, and if the report itself says that it's not an exoneration?


That makes no sense.
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:29 PM #32624
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Nope, itís not in the report. It is however the focus of Barrís investigation, and got the democrats very scared, making those rats turn on each other.
It may not be in the report, but I don't think that's certain until they can review the unredacted report.

The report itself said it was not an exoneration. I don't see what the big deal is with letting them have at the unredacted report and getting this bs over with.
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:36 PM #32625
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The facts here are: 1) Donald J Trump is the President of the United States.
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2)Those idiots tried to fry Trump for 2 years and found NOTHING.
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Here's a fact. The report itself said it's not an exoneration. Why doesn't he just say, F-it. Look at the unredacted report. You won't find anything anyway.

Seems sketchy as hell.
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:42 PM #32626
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It may not be in the report, but I don't think that's certain until they can review the unredacted report.

The report itself said it was not an exoneration. I don't see what the big deal is with letting them have at the unredacted report and getting this bs over with.
You do know that Barr invited Nadler and other ranking members to view a 99.9% unredacted version of the report, in which only one sentence was fully, and seven were partially blacked out, right? They all refused.

You do also know that Barr would be breaking the law by releasing a fully unredacted report to the public?
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:57 PM #32627
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You do know that Barr invited Nadler and other ranking members to view a 99.9% unredacted version of the report, in which only one sentence was fully, and seven were partially blacked out, right? They all refused.

You do also know that Barr would be breaking the law by releasing a fully unredacted report to the public?
There is plenty about this I don't know because I'm not big into politics, but I'm vaguely interested.

What was the reason that Nadler refused? I though that's what he was asking for.

I'm assuming that the people asking for the unredacted report know the law....? I know there are categories for what has been redacted. I've redacted court documents myself. Sure there are some things that won't be able to be revealed, but from what I know of the Meuller report, they can reduce some of those redactions. The problem is that Barr was given the green light to redact as much of and anything that he wanted.
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Old 05-17-2019, 12:01 AM #32628
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How can you possibly know if he is innocent or guilty if all of the information hasn't been reviewed, and if the report itself says that it's not an exoneration?


That makes no sense.
There is no exoneration, because at this point, there is nothing to be exonerated for. We can't even say collusion occured, period, much less to say Trump is innocent or guilty.

This is like saying, "Is Trump guilty of murdering Hilliary Clinton?" How can Trump be anything but innocent, until we can show something even happened to be guilty of?
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There is plenty about this I don't know because I'm not big into politics, but I'm vaguely interested.

What was the reason that Nadler refused? I though that's what he was asking for.

I'm assuming that the people asking for the unredacted report know the law....? I know there are categories for what has been redacted. I've redacted court documents myself. Sure there are some things that won't be able to be revealed, but from what I know of the Meuller report, they can reduce some of those redactions. The problem is that Barr was given the green light to redact as much of and anything that he wanted.
Nadler refused because itís not about the report. There is nothing in the report. Their goal is to make noise, and try to attack Barrís credibility because now itís Barrís turn to counter-investigate all the corrupt establishment politicians who tried to overturn Trumpís lawful election. Can you step back, look at what is happening, and get it?
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Not that it really matters because we already know Trump is a crook with an AG protecting him & nothing will be done about it.

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