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  • #11
    The claim that GGG was shamelessly ducked is heavily overstated. His main problem with securing high profile fights was signing with a second rate Euro promoter then Loeffler who didn’t have the pull to put him on noteworthy cards. It’s not like the public was clamoring to see him either, Eastern European amateur standouts feasting on nobodies on the sidelines aren’t exactly hard to come by. Years into his career even after claiming a title, his main claim to fame was giving good sparring to a teenage Canelo.

    Once HBO got behind him and he became an in demand fighter, other fighters took notice and began calling him out. Suddenly team GGG became dismissive of challengers, coming up with various reasons ranging from not liking a fighter’s style, not liking their weight, not being financially lucrative, not caring about mandatory obligations, and generally insisting fighter’s stand in line as they pick and choose opponents as they please. Basically every excuse (and then some) they accused other fighters of using to duck him. Even negotiations with Jacobs dragged on because they wouldn’t budge from a 75% split on their behalf even though GGG wasn’t a cash cow himself, and they initially turned down a career high payday against Canelo only to turn around and claim they were ducked, and damn near priced themselves out a massive payday for the rematch. That fight was almost dead until GB salvaged it at the end by giving into his inflated demands. Basically, GGG has never made concessions like others have or taken a risk unless it was in his favor.

    And if anything, I see more similarities between Marquez and Canelo in the way they approached their respective grudge matches. Both defied people’s expectations by fighting their opponent’s fight (which most believed would be suicide missions), yet made their risky gambles pay off by effectively beating them at their own game.

    However, to Pac’s credit at least he was ready to do whatever it takes to clinch a victory, unlike GGG who talked smack about the fighter who takes a step back not deserving any credit only to get caught with his pants down and retreat when confronted by an aggressive Canelo at the center of the ring. Given the circumstances leading into the fight, GGG’s decision to abandon his team’s gameplan by retreating and mostly staying busy jabbing was one of the most baffling decisions by a fighter in years: Meanwhile Canelo’s decision to bring the fight to the supposed boogeyman of boxing was one of the ballsiest.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by JMO925 View Post
      Alvarez never avoided lil g. That's a fallacy. If i remember correctly lil g said anyone from 154 to 168 until S.O.G a 168 lbr said me then lil g kept quiet, hell even Lara a 154 lbr said me and lil g kept quiet. Lil g has been the most called out avoided guy ever. He chooses to fight unknowns and no hopers (vanes off a 2yr lay off comes to mind)instead of going for it. Why not fight Andrade and try to claim some of the title? Answer is cause he wants no risk. Alvarez on the other hand has fought high risk fights that he could have and probably should have avoided. The Lara fight comes to mind it was a terrible stylistic match up. I personally had it for canelo but i may be biased, honestly Lara stunk up the joint and it's hard to score rounds for guys trying not to fight. Also he took on mayweather with a weight disadvantage and when still too green. Anyways Lil g is a joke, a decent fighter but still a joke.
      So now fighters are ducking fighters who can't make them $5? Why would anyone fight Lara after stunk up the joint against Canelo?

      Just because internet fan boys like you have a certain opinion about a fighter doesn't mean that's reality. Get out of your internet bubble, nerd. Outside of the internet people would rather drink cyanide than watch a Lara fight.

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      • #13
        "There has always been a feeling in the ardent Golovkin camps that their man has been victimized by a sport that didn’t provide a fair path to prove his talents."

        This is one of the dumbest statements I have read in a long time. Boxing on HBO in America has made Golovkin a millionaire many times over, and Canelo made him a mega-millionaire. GGG was more than overhyped. He was passed off by the media as the second coming of Mike Tyson. But unlike Tyson, he was also portrayed as humble and squeaky clean, and when it suited their purpose as some sort of ersatz Mexican. None of that was true.

        Not only did boxing in America provide a "fair path" for this ingrate, but it also provided him, with fame and fortune that he and his cronies fail to appreciate.

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        • #14
          Golovkin got robbed the first fight come on man...... If that didnt happen hed be the main attraction RN

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          • #15
            "He (Golovkin) didn't close the show". That about sums it up. Most fans were expecting Golovkin to expose Alvarez, dominate and KO him.
            People remember the big fights on a guy's resume and unless there's a third fight with Alvarez, "not closing the show"will be GGG's legacy.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by MisanthropicNY View Post
              So now fighters are ducking fighters who can't make them $5? Why would anyone fight Lara after stunk up the joint against Canelo?

              Just because internet fan boys like you have a certain opinion about a fighter doesn't mean that's reality. Get out of your internet bubble, nerd. Outside of the internet people would rather drink cyanide than watch a Lara fight.
              He's talking about the article saying GGG was avoided. It's not true.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Kiowhatta View Post
                You don't even know that you're making claims that you can't back up with even anecdotal evidence. The reason GGG fought Vanes was because Canelo was suspended.

                Derevyanchenko has come out and defended Golovkin.

                Golovkin fought and beat former title holders, title holders, the ONLY fighter to get a draw in a den of snakes where one cannot secure a decision against the house fighter.

                Geale, Rubio, Murray, Monroe Jr, Lemieux, Wade, Brook, Jacobs all nobodies? when GGG was pummeling all comers, Charlo and Andrade were down at 154.

                Amateur Record: 345-5 (might be 8 losses)

                Record of 19-1-1 (18 KOs) in world title fights.
                Record of 5-1-1 (4 KOs) against former, current, and future world champions:
                Won against Kassim Ouma, Daniel Geale, David Lemieux, Kell Brook, and Daniel Jacobs.
                Drew against Saul Alvarez.

                WBA Super World Middleweight Title (October 2010-present; 19 defences)
                IBF World Middleweight Title (October 2015-present; 4 defences)
                WBC World Middleweight Title (May 2016-present; 4 defences)

                Has never tasted the canvas. My point is, be reasonable. Don't be one of the half-wits on here who just write whatever they're feeling, have zero humility and are just keyboard tough guys.

                The way you express yourself here reveals much about who you are.
                Not a GGG fan but this is post of the week material here.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Verus View Post
                  "There has always been a feeling in the ardent Golovkin camps that their man has been victimized by a sport that didn’t provide a fair path to prove his talents."

                  This is one of the dumbest statements I have read in a long time. Boxing on HBO in America has made Golovkin a millionaire many times over, and Canelo made him a mega-millionaire. GGG was more than overhyped. He was passed off by the media as the second coming of Mike Tyson. But unlike Tyson, he was also portrayed as humble and squeaky clean, and when it suited their purpose as some sort of ersatz Mexican. None of that was true.

                  Not only did boxing in America provide a "fair path" for this ingrate, but it also provided him, with fame and fortune that he and his cronies fail to appreciate.
                  Jim Lampley's dumbass called him a latter day Ali😂

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                  • #19
                    It’s funny how a couple of gift decisions get forgotten about and people’s perception gets skewed. You’re talking about a man that basically beat Canelo twice but now people just look at the official record.

                    Then we wonder why fighters are so scared to lose their 0 and protect it. Context doesn’t matter after a few months.

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                    • #20
                      To me, GGG is a never was, a media hypejob.

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