Debunking the PBC fighters can't fight on HBO Theory Myth and GGG's HBO contract

[glenn mcrory]

Is this about the Golovkin-Jacobs fight?
Are you still on that?
Man, you are one persistant GGG fan.

[Chollo Vista]

There is 0 doubt hbo cut haymons roster off. Thats not debatable.
So your points are pretty much pointless.

Then why was Kovalev, who's with HBO, trying to fight Beterbiev who's with Haymon?

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...-kovalev-fight

[Chollo Vista]

he has a mando due, which means he either has to do a unification (Canelo or Saunders) or fight his mando (was Johnson, now is Wade).

Why would he talk to Haymon about anyone else at this point?

You don't think I know that Wade is the mandatory? It's just sad when an organization has to force a promoter/network into negotiations.

Especially when a different promoter (i.e. Duva) under the HBO banner had no problems in calling out a Haymon fighter when she tried to get Kovalev vs Beterbiev. There was no problems then was it? And if it weren't for the fact that Beterbiev wasn't ready because he only had 9 fights, we just as well might've had that fight.

But where was the "HBO can't work with Haymon" rationale going on then?

And you can't say that Duva is different than Loeffler in working with Haymon because Loeffler and Haymon worked together just fine to make Jonathan Banks vs Antonio Tarver.

So just stop with the BS excuses.

[Citizen Koba]

Then why was Kovalev, who's with HBO trying to fight Beterbiev who's with Haymon?

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...-kovalev-fight

Who knows. But even in the article you reference it mentions that HBO have a block on Haymon fighters. Perhaps because of the Moscow venue HBO wouldn't be footing the bill for the event, but simply buying the stream. One couldn't blame HBO for being wary of dealing with Haymon after the Ward - Rodriguez debacle.

[AddiX]

Then why was Kovalev, who's with HBO, trying to fight Beterbiev who's with Haymon?

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...-kovalev-fight

He tried to, but did he?

No

[Chollo Vista]

Who knows. But even in the article you reference it mentions that HBO have a block on Haymon fighters.

No, that's the LAZY false reporting journalism of Dan Rafael and his words.

Per the article "she said HBO suggested that she offer the fight to Beterbiev".

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...-kovalev-fight

[Chollo Vista]

He tried to, but did he?

No

Again, it was because of Beterbiev's management team feeling that a fighter with only 9 fights not being ready for Kovalev. It had zilch to do with Haymon.

Again, it was HBO that asked Duva to make the fight with a Haymon fighter.

So just stop with this whole thing about HBO banning Haymon fighters and using that as an excuse for Team Golovkin to not fight the best.

[AddiX]

Again, it was because of Beterbiev's management team feeling that a fighter with only 9 fights not being ready for Kovalev. It had zilch to do with Haymon.

Again, it was HBO that asked Duva to make the fight with a Haymon fighter.

So just stop with this whole thing about HBO banning Haymon fighters and using that as an excuse for Team Golovkin to not fight the best.

Oh ok, so I guess its just some insane coincidence no Haymon fighters have fought on HBO since Rodriguez, which was due to an old contract?

All this time Haymon and HBO just forgot about each other or some ****?

Give it up.

And ps, unless it's Floyd, GGG will not be fighting on another network. Him and his management are no where near as dumb as guys like Mikey Garcia or Chavez.

[Citizen Koba]

No, that's the LAZY false reporting journalism of Dan Rafael and his words.

Per the article "she said HBO suggested that she offer the fight to Beterbiev".

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...-kovalev-fight

Yes. I did read it. I also suggested a plausible explanation other than 'Dan Rafael is so stupid he totally contradicted himself within a single sentence' - though of course, it's possible he is.

[Chollo Vista]

Oh ok, so I guess its just some insane coincidence no Haymon fighters have fought on HBO

Haymon and Duva are negotiating right now for a fight next June with Kov and Stevenson in which HBO already agreed too.

Why you guys keep using this bogus reasoning as to why Loeffler can't at least negotiate with DiBella on a potential Jacobs-GGG fight is asinine.