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Originally posted by JohnCastellanos View PostI do give him credit for knocking out about 20 bums, I mean the easy part was KOing these Joe blows but to actually get fool ppl into thinking that was special takes a real mastermind and don’t forget he’s sold out at small venues and set records for attendance at little league stadiums across the nation
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Originally posted by Snowballer View PostMost serious fans know that Golovkin was HBO's creation.
They found a guy with power and decent skills and matched him with lower tier fighters to sell him to the casuals as some kind of KO artists since that's what casuals like, and in a time when Mayweather was the face of boxing and had a boring style to casuals.
Pretty much everything was handed to Golovkin, from titles to coverage.
In contrast, Canelo at the age of 19 started fighting lower tier world level fighters and by 22 or 23 was fighting elite fighters all the way through to present time. He paid his dues and has created a nice legacy, all before the age of 29.
GGG is the casuals champ.
Canelo is the people's champ.
canelo had a ton of hbo fights againt low tiered guys before finally stepping up: carlos baldomis, mathew hatton, ryan rhodes, alfonso gomez, kermit cintron, josesito lopez, old man mosley. none of those guys are even close to the level of pirog. only one of them was even in the top 10 of the division and you are talking about hbo creations and being handed things? hbo built canelo up for the casuals so that they would tune in. turns out he was a great fighter but your whole argument is literally backwards.Last edited by daggum; 01-18-2020, 12:21 PM.
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Originally posted by Snowballer View PostMost serious fans know that Golovkin was HBO's creation.
They found a guy with power and decent skills and matched him with lower tier fighters to sell him to the casuals as some kind of KO artists since that's what casuals like, and in a time when Mayweather was the face of boxing and had a boring style to casuals.
Pretty much everything was handed to Golovkin, from titles to coverage.
In contrast, Canelo at the age of 19 started fighting lower tier world level fighters and by 22 or 23 was fighting elite fighters all the way through to present time. He paid his dues and has created a nice legacy, all before the age of 29.
GGG is the casuals champ.
Canelo is the people's champ.
I don't see an old Cotto, Kovalev, GGG, or Lara elite. I'd rate those from good to very good at their best peak, and that's being generous.
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Originally posted by daggum View Posthis very first hbo fight was supposed to be against pirog before pirog got injured. why make up this entire false narrative? he wanted to fight the best right off the bat. thats documented so why the lies? 6 out of his first 7 opponents on hbo were in the top 10, he signed to fight pirog, and he wanted martinez. serious fans know all this. partisans and tribalists make up their own narratives and ignore reality.
canelo had a ton of hbo fights againt low tiered guys before finally stepping up: carlos baldomis, mathew hatton, ryan rhodes, alfonso gomez, kermit cintron, josesito lopez, old man mosley. none of those guys are even close to the level of pirog. only one of them was even in the top 10 of the division and you are talking about hbo creations and being handed things? hbo built canelo up for the casuals so that they would tune in. turns out he was a great fighter but your whole argument is literally backwards.
He didn't fight pirog and didn't fight martinez, he didn't fight anyone at 154 or 168 like he promised
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Originally posted by Dontbeahater View PostPrime ggg... You guys have to stop with the excuses. Ggg didn't want to ever take less money. Compromise weight or timing. He never wanted the big fight until canelo.
He could have been atg if he took those chances. Now just a good champ with a weak resume
thats it right there... Golovkin's career in a nutshell
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Originally posted by MEXICAN STYLE View PostGolovflop is going bum-hunting meanwhile a respectable fighter like Alvarez is looking for undefeated & legit competition to give a L too
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Originally posted by Dontbeahater View PostPrime ggg... You guys have to stop with the excuses. Ggg didn't want to ever take less money. Compromise weight or timing. He never wanted the big fight until canelo.
He could have been atg if he took those chances. Now just a good champ with a weak resume
At least the latter knows that there were a cw in place for the GGG . Rosado fight. But now he pretends he doesn't know.
https://www.boxingscene.com/gennady-...-weight--60829
I hope you don't support Canelo while saying that GGG never wanted to take less money, because then you'd be the biggest hypocrite.
This also applies to your timing issue.
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostWell he did beat your favorite fighter twice in the opinion of the majority of viewers and has him scared shi tless to fight him a third time.
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Originally posted by mcdonalds View PostGGG fanboys still living off Imaginary fights
He didn't fight pirog and didn't fight martinez, he didn't fight anyone at 154 or 168 like he promised
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