Should people on welfare after a certain time have their voting right revoked?

[LoadedWraps]

I didn't say you were against it, I posted that you look down on people on welfare. You do so by stereotyping them as lazy.

Cool, then people like me will stereotype Trump supporters as mindless pea brained idiots. You shouldn't have a problem with that because, as your post shows, you freely stereotype and demean people when it suits whatever narrative you want.

The truth is you don't want poor people to vote because they tend to vote for Democrats. Instead of just posting that, you tried to mask it with some pseudo intellectual rubbish you saw on some alt right website.

Voting rights aren't based on wealth or whether or not someone is on welfare for decades. You guys that wrap yourselves in the Constitution should know this.

As I said, the easily manipulated, low information, secluded in a bubble voters are far more of a problem than those on welfare.

Welfare is literally a handout for people who won't work.

Are there legit cases? Sure, perhaps. But don't sit here and don't pretend it isn't abused, and hard. And those people are lazy and/or trying to game the system. This offends you? Then prove someone wrong with your actions, don't sit there crying about the fact that people not on welfare look down on people on it for being lazy hand out taking phaggots that are a burden on society. Prove us wrong or take it and shut up.

[The Big Dunn]

Welfare is literally a handout for people who won't work.

Are there legit cases? Sure, perhaps. But don't sit here and don't pretend it isn't abused, and hard. And those people are lazy and/or trying to game the system. This offends you? Then prove someone wrong with your actions, don't sit there crying about the fact that people not on welfare look down on people on it for being lazy hand out taking phaggots that are a burden on society. Prove us wrong or take it and shut up.

Show me a connection between welfare and voting. Otherwise, the idea that people on welfare shouldn't be allowed to vote is ******ed.

[Dr.Cool]

I think it's a great idea.

Welfare shouldn't be a thing, period. Support yourself or roll over and rot.

You can't be a functioning adult and you want your say in how a nation is run? LMFAO. LMAO.

The President has received more in corporate welfare, than any regular person could receive in 100 lifetimes. Also, most people on SNAP DO WORK. It is Republican policies that keep wages low.

Again, a person making $50,000 a year pay $36 towards SNAP, a whopping total of $6 a year for every other kind of assistance to the poor, and $6,000 a year for corporate welfare.

We elected someone who can't be a functioning adult and needs to depend tens of thousands of dollars a year from taxpayers. Yes, if we ban them from voting, we should also ban them from holding elected office.

[BrometheusBob.]

Welfare is literally a handout for people who won't work.

Are there legit cases? Sure, perhaps. But don't sit here and don't pretend it isn't abused, and hard. And those people are lazy and/or trying to game the system. This offends you? Then prove someone wrong with your actions, don't sit there crying about the fact that people not on welfare look down on people on it for being lazy hand out taking phaggots that are a burden on society. Prove us wrong or take it and shut up.

lol, say hello to another guy that doesn't realize that there are far far fewer job openings than there are people on welfare. Any estimate you can find is gonna say what, 5 million? 10 million tops jobs open? The number of people on welfare far exceeds that. And they don't all matchup in terms of location, skills required etc. You have to be living in a fantasy land if you think it's currently possible for every able-bodied adult to be employed.

I don't even see how any of this is relevant. Go ahead and judge them or go ahead and feel that welfare shouldn't be a thing - that still doesn't demonstrate that stripping them of voting rights is reasonable.

Voting rights were never about who works hardest or anything ridiculous like that. People fought long and hard to ensure it was a fundamental right. Stripping it from people isn't something you can do just because you have personal judgements about how they have lived their lives.

[Dr.Cool]

Welfare is literally a handout for people who won't work.

Are there legit cases? Sure, perhaps. But don't sit here and don't pretend it isn't abused, and hard. And those people are lazy and/or trying to game the system. This offends you? Then prove someone wrong with your actions, don't sit there crying about the fact that people not on welfare look down on people on it for being lazy hand out taking phaggots that are a burden on society. Prove us wrong or take it and shut up.

The overwhelming majority of SNAP recipients who can work do so. Among SNAP households with at least one working-age, non-disabled adult, more than half work while receiving SNAP — and more than 80 percent work in the year prior to or the year after receiving SNAP. The rates are even higher for families with children — more than 60 percent work while receiving SNAP, and almost 90 percent work in the prior or subsequent year.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/the-re...ome-households

You are an idiot. The corporate welfare system is being abused hard. Most individuals who receive assistance, that can work, do work. However, corporations receive billions in dollars of welfare every single year. This taxpayer money is handed to people like the Koch brothers and the Mercer family. You know, people who are already billionaires.

[Dr.Cool]

Welfare is literally a handout for people who won't work.

Are there legit cases? Sure, perhaps. But don't sit here and don't pretend it isn't abused, and hard. And those people are lazy and/or trying to game the system. This offends you? Then prove someone wrong with your actions, don't sit there crying about the fact that people not on welfare look down on people on it for being lazy hand out taking phaggots that are a burden on society. Prove us wrong or take it and shut up.

The Post’s Drew Harwell reported over the weekend that, for at least two years in the late 1970s (the last time Trump’s tax information was made public), Trump paid no federal income taxes. Several tax experts I spoke with said it’s entirely possible that Trump has continued to report negative income — and therefore not pay taxes — because of loopholes and dubious deductions that benefit powerful real estate interests.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.4785ffb3df6f


Mr. Trump has reaped at least $885 million in tax breaks, grants and other subsidies for luxury apartments, hotels and office buildings in New York,
according to city tax, housing and finance records. The subsidies helped him lower his own costs and sell apartments at higher prices because of their reduced taxes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/n...al-estate.html

I guess I have to agree with you. Trump is abusing the system and abusing it hard. You are right, the system is abused, but not by the poor receiving assistance, but by the rich, like Donald Trump, receiving assistance.

[Dr.Cool]

lol, say hello to another guy that doesn't realize that there are far far fewer job openings than there are people on welfare. Any estimate you can find is gonna say what, 5 million? 10 million tops jobs open? The number of people on welfare far exceeds that. And they don't all matchup in terms of location, skills required etc. You have to be living in a fantasy land if you think it's currently possible for every able-bodied adult to be employed.

I don't even see how any of this is relevant. Go ahead and judge them or go ahead and feel that welfare shouldn't be a thing - that still doesn't demonstrate that stripping them of voting rights is reasonable.

Voting rights were never about who works hardest or anything ridiculous like that. People fought long and hard to ensure it was a fundamental right. Stripping it from people isn't something you can do just because you have personal judgements about how they have lived their lives.

I agree with you on most everything. However, you are forgetting that most people who receive assistance and can work, actually do work. People aren't receiving SNAP and heating assistance because they don't work, but because they do not get paid enough.

If we really want to cut back on welfare, we would raise the minimum wage. That would drastically reduce the amount spent on assistance for the poor.

[LoadedWraps]

The Post’s Drew Harwell reported over the weekend that, for at least two years in the late 1970s (the last time Trump’s tax information was made public), Trump paid no federal income taxes. Several tax experts I spoke with said it’s entirely possible that Trump has continued to report negative income — and therefore not pay taxes — because of loopholes and dubious deductions that benefit powerful real estate interests.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.4785ffb3df6f


Mr. Trump has reaped at least $885 million in tax breaks, grants and other subsidies for luxury apartments, hotels and office buildings in New York,
according to city tax, housing and finance records. The subsidies helped him lower his own costs and sell apartments at higher prices because of their reduced taxes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/n...al-estate.html

I guess I have to agree with you. Trump is abusing the system and abusing it hard. You are right, the system is abused, but not by the poor receiving assistance, but by the rich, like Donald Trump, receiving assistance.

What does Trumps tax situation have to do with my post?

HOLY DEFLECTING BATMAN!

"let me dodge his truthful statement and bring up a completely different and irrelevant topic, because 'wraps won't notice, because, I've got nothing".

Want to stay on topic and give me a straight answer? ****ing lol if you think I'm going to sit here and defend trump. What I will do is **** on handout taking, self pitying, lazy fookbois who want to be supported, grown men and women. a detriment to our society. The poor are often poor of their own doing. I would know. I was raised in the ghetto, and made my way out of it.

[Dr.Cool]

What does Trumps tax situation have to do with my post?

HOLY DEFLECTING BATMAN!

"let me dodge his truthful statement and bring up a completely different and irrelevant topic, because 'wraps won't notice, because, I've got nothing".

Want to stay on topic and give me a straight answer? ****ing lol if you think I'm going to sit here and defend trump. What I will do is **** on handout taking, self pitying, lazy fookbois who want to be supported, grown men and women. a detriment to our society. The poor are often poor of their own doing. I would know. I was raised in the ghetto, and made my way out of it.

The overwhelming majority of SNAP recipients who can work do so. Among SNAP households with at least one working-age, non-disabled adult, more than half work while receiving SNAP — and more than 80 percent work in the year prior to or the year after receiving SNAP. The rates are even higher for families with children — more than 60 percent work while receiving SNAP, and almost 90 percent work in the prior or subsequent year.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/the-re...ome-households

Way to deflect from the facts. So here they are again. Obviously, your statement was either a lie, or you are just completely ignorant of reality.

Please, don't deflect. Most who receive assistance and can work do work.

So keep deflecting and lying.

And that wasn't deflecting, you said welfare was for people to lazy to work. But our president has worked and has also received nearly a BILLION dollars in welfare. So, it actually went right to the heart of your post. But, I get it, the facts prove you are ignorant and your arguments are based on falsehoods and lies.

[LoadedWraps]

The overwhelming majority of SNAP recipients who can work do so. Among SNAP households with at least one working-age, non-disabled adult, more than half work while receiving SNAP — and more than 80 percent work in the year prior to or the year after receiving SNAP. The rates are even higher for families with children — more than 60 percent work while receiving SNAP, and almost 90 percent work in the prior or subsequent year.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/the-re...ome-households

Way to deflect from the facts. So here they are again. Obviously, your statement was either a lie, or you are just completely ignorant of reality.

Please, don't deflect. Most who receive assistance and can work do work.

So keep deflecting and lying.

And that wasn't deflecting, you said welfare was for people to lazy to work. But our president has worked and has also received nearly a BILLION dollars in welfare. So, it actually went right to the heart of your post. But, I get it, the facts prove you are ignorant and your arguments are based on falsehoods and lies.

And how many of those "working and receiving" are playing on their phones stoned, collecting min wage, content with min wage and welfare like true scrubs?

I WAS ONE OF THESE PEOPLE once. It's real.

You think because people sit stagnant with min wage fringe jobs and collect welfare, that this is evidence of welfare "working"? Or having a positive outcome? Upward mobility is a personal responsibility.



There is no data in that link that goes into enough detail, and this is by design. Quit defending the lazy oxygen thiefs abusing taxes and social services that shouldn't exist outside of a socialist state.