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Old 02-26-2020, 05:57 PM #21
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I regularly work out and have a boxing routine but please dude, that's no different than performing a farmer's walk while if anything is more about back/trap strength than it is your legs.

Wilders legs looked fine. Maybe he lost his legs because Fury put him on a bicycle while hitting him with concussive shots that snapped his head back.

I've seen the fight probably over 10 times now looking for the moment Wilder "lost his legs" and moment was in the 3rd round by KD.

If anything, if someone actually boxed youd probably figure Fury sapped Wilder of his legs because Fury forced him to fight on his rhythm.

Rhythm can sap a ton of fighters energy.

That was something Wilder had never experienced before. His mouth was already open and gasping before the KD.
I agree a good chunk would be in the trap but most of the weight definitely would be in the legs. And there's no way wearing 45 pounds for 20 mins str8 wouldn't take some rounds worth of stamina from your legs. I agree that it was still Fury's gameplan that beat Wilder at the end of the day, but one cannot deny that having a few rounds less stamina in your legs is not going to have some appreciable contribution the reasons why Wilder lost. For example, with less stamina in your legs, your going to move and react a bit slower as both fighters do in later rounds. But if you rewatched the fight, you probably noticed Wilder's reaction time starting in round 2 was surprisingly slower for just the 2nd round, like he was already getting tired. Most of that can probably be attributed to Fury but not all of it.
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:11 PM #22
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You'd be correct if he was not wearing it for more than a few mins. My argument assumes he wore it for 15 - 20 mins because he said he had the costume on 10 - 15 before the ring walk, with the walk being an additional 5 or so mins. He could be lying about the timing. But i believe it's a decent workout if he did wear the suit as long as he said
You can't go off what Wilder said. He's a proven liar, excuse maker and moron. Look at the fight again and he leaves his locker room not wearing it and then puts it on in the hallway.
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:13 PM #23
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Facts....... Nobody is giving him a pass but the stuff people been saying makes zero since.

Just cuz u train with added weight doesn't make sense to do it b4 going into a fight. Your suppose to be fresh same reason training camp slows down close to the fight.

I can tell which guys never boxed b4 from the stupid things they be saying.
Wilders bringing it on himself. Now if he said gaining all that muscle sapped he's stamina abit, that would be credible. Still not an excuse, but maybe a factor in him being beaten up since he was exhausted by round 3.
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:14 PM #24
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If he did affect it, then that is even worse, as he is the muppet that chose to wear that freak outfit.


Don't worry Deontay, get the rematch and show us what you really got.

But when you get beat that time around, you will have nowhere to go and even you will accept the truth.
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:19 PM #26
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The excuse is BS, but just because you can do something in training doesn't mean you should/can do it in competition.

Floyd can spar 12 5 minutes rounds with different sparring partners cycling in and out. Doesn't mean he should fight to opponents back to back in a real fight.
but training with a 45lbs vest is more tiring than walking to the ring with a 40lbs costume on.... your logic is backward.
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:23 PM #27
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Facts....... Nobody is giving him a pass but the stuff people been saying makes zero since.

Just cuz u train with added weight doesn't make sense to do it b4 going into a fight. Your suppose to be fresh same reason training camp slows down close to the fight.

I can tell which guys never boxed b4 from the stupid things they be saying.
brahhhh.. if wilder was training with a 45lbs vest on then walking to the ring with a 40lbs costume on shouldnt tired him out that much!! that's what the training was for! wtf man lol.. what do you think the training was for then? that shiiet was suppose to prepare him for that.
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:36 PM #28
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Hasnt beaten fury in 2 fights judges helped him and now his legs were ravaged by a costume

I don't dislike wilder I have enjoyed watching him fold ppl in half but he needs to stop with this bs
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Old 02-26-2020, 07:56 PM #29
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I agree a good chunk would be in the trap but most of the weight definitely would be in the legs. And there's no way wearing 45 pounds for 20 mins str8 wouldn't take some rounds worth of stamina from your legs. I agree that it was still Fury's gameplan that beat Wilder at the end of the day, but one cannot deny that having a few rounds less stamina in your legs is not going to have some appreciable contribution the reasons why Wilder lost. For example, with less stamina in your legs, your going to move and react a bit slower as both fighters do in later rounds. But if you rewatched the fight, you probably noticed Wilder's reaction time starting in round 2 was surprisingly slower for just the 2nd round, like he was already getting tired. Most of that can probably be attributed to Fury but not all of it.
At 20 lbs a leg I'm not too sure I would do much. Throw in on top of that that Wilder trains with a 45lb vest and that standing with said weight on barely affect you because your bones are supporting most of that weight.

Throw on top of the that Wilder usually wears similar things to that AND the question that costume truly weighed "40 lbs" or not.

Fury leaning his 273 odd pounds on Wilder imo would far more effect than his costume.

As a high school football player the pads and helmet probably weight like 20lbs. We would wear that gear for like 4 hours and still expect to compete.

Just sounds no self accountability for me.
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Old 02-26-2020, 08:19 PM #30
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but training with a 45lbs vest is more tiring than walking to the ring with a 40lbs costume on.... your logic is backward.
Yeah when he was wearing the 45lb vest, he was intentionally trying to tire himself out. 40lbs won't exhaust him, but it will take something from his legs.

And remember that there's a difference between being in shape and being in fighting shape. It takes a lot of strength to withstand punches from a 273lb man, over 12 rounds while trying to move, punch and defend.
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