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Old 02-24-2020, 02:19 PM #11
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Well the best chins Tyson faced were Holyfield and Lewis and he couldn't even hurt them. He also struggled to put away the likes of Ruddock, Ribalta etc.

Wilder hasn't ko'd Oliver McCall, but nobody who faced him has not drooled unconcious on the canvas except for Fury, who honestly looked dead the one time Wilder landed clean on him. There is just more force behind Wilder's right hands, he's a harder hitter punch for punch and if Fury can survive that, he takes the best shot from Tyson and survives. Fury is not Desiree Washinton.
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Old 02-24-2020, 02:28 PM #12
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That's not Tyson's style though, he's a fast starter who mentally and physically weakens the longer the fight goes on. Fury has the advantage from the start but the longer it goes, the more likely it is Tyson gets stopped or tries to do something to get out of the fight like bite Fury's foreskin off.
Mike defeated better fighters than Fury, whether by early or mid rounds or going the distance.
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Old 02-24-2020, 02:33 PM #13
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What we saw last night, is the absolute worst type of matchup for ol Mighty. Tyson Fury now has everything it takes to frustrate and force a mental quit out of him. He's enormous and will lean on Mike in every clinch, outbox him from the outside with his gigantic reach advantage and quick footwork, beat him up at every range and taunt him while doing it. Even the way Fury is built(long limbs, very short torso) protects his body.

Tyson doesn't even have a realistic puncher's chance. If he can even reach Fury, he cannot finish what Wilder couldn't even do(and yes Wilder hits harder).
I tend to agree that Tyson Fury would be a bad style matchup for Iron Mike, however Mike had tremendous head movement in his prime and his entire offense was built around slipping jabs against taller opponents.

The problem is that Tyson Fury is unusually tall and he has great movement for his size. As for whether Deontay Wilder hits harder than Tyson, maybe he does for one shot but Iron Mike hits harder in combination. Fury was out of danger against Wilder as soon as he tied Deontay up, however Fury would have to be wary of Mike's explosiveness on the inside.

I could see Iron Mike chasing with Fury sticking and moving. When Mike gets inside I see Fury clinching and mauling. The key is whether or not Mike could get his shots off before he gets tied up. If he does then he could possibly chop down the tree (especially within the first 3-4 rounds), after all, Fury's body is a huge target at 6'9", 270 lbs. If Fury manages to smother Mike and back him up then I see the Gypsy King scoring a late stoppage.
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Mike defeated better fighters than Fury, whether by early or mid rounds or going the distance.
It's quite beneath you as a poster to make such a statement. The best fighters Tyson beat in their prime were Ruddock and Tucker. Ruddock was a one armed brawler, Tucker was very good but turned into a junkie before reaching any potential. Nothing compared to Fury.

Fury is the best fighter of his era and incredibly skilled and unique for a 6'9 270lber, we'll never see another heavyweight who has that kind of footwork and upperbody movement at that massive size.
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I tend to agree that Tyson Fury would be a bad style matchup for Iron Mike, however Mike had tremendous head movement in his prime and his entire offense was built around slipping jabs against taller opponents.

The problem is that Tyson Fury is unusually tall and he has great movement for his size. As for whether Deontay Wilder hits harder than Tyson, maybe he does for one shot but Iron Mike hits harder in combination. Fury was out of danger against Wilder as soon as he tied Deontay up, however Fury would have to be wary of Mike's explosiveness on the inside.

I could see Iron Mike chasing with Fury sticking and moving. When Mike gets inside I see Fury clinching and mauling. The key is whether or not Mike could get his shots off before he gets tied up. If he does then he could possibly chop down the tree (especially within the first 3-4 rounds), after all, Fury's body is a huge target at 6'9", 270 lbs. If Fury manages to smother Mike and back him up then I see the Gypsy King scoring a late stoppage.
Pretty fair analysis. I will say though:
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Mike had tremendous head movement in his prime and his entire offense was built around slipping jabs against taller opponents.
This was only untill the mid rounds before it would slack off and become ineffective. Tyson's style was extremely taxing physically and mentally and it was designed to score a stoppage before the middle of the fight, and if it did go on longer, he should have already accumulated enough points to win by UD.

To repeat myself: That fancy head movement you see in highlight videos isn't effective in a long grueling fight against a guy you won't KO, who has 50 pounds, 10 inches of height and 15 inches of reach on you, leaning on you in every clinch and smacking you around from the other side of the ring while taunting you, knowing your fragile mind can't take that frustration.
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Pretty fair analysis. I will say though:


This was only untill the mid rounds before it would slack off and become ineffective. Tyson's style was extremely taxing physically and mentally and it was designed to score a stoppage before the middle of the fight, and if it did go on longer, he should have already accumulated enough points to win by UD.

To repeat myself: That fancy head movement you see in highlight videos isn't effective in a long grueling fight against a guy you won't KO, who has 50 pounds, 10 inches of height and 15 inches of reach on you, leaning on you in every clinch and smacking you around from the other side of the ring while taunting you, knowing your fragile mind can't take that frustration.
I do agree with that, which is why I believe Mike would have to do major damage in the early rounds. If it goes beyond that then I think Fury scores a late stoppage.
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I wrote this earlier today on a different topic,
"Fury is the Kryptonite for these super heavyweight, mainly because he is just so much darn bigger than they are. You cant fight him at range because he has more range than you (and decent enough movement). And when you try to get close he just locks you up.
The type of dude who will beat Fury (outside of him beating himself) is a talented heavyweight who can work his way in and fight on the inside. And even that would require a ref to break up Fury from the headlocks and grappling..."

Now the question is, is Mike Tyson that kind of fighter that can work his way inside and get to him? I believe he is. Although I think he'd need to be on top of Fury quick, and have a ref who really enforces the rules.
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Fury be an easy UD...once he got past 2-3 rounds, Tyson would look for a way out.
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It's quite beneath you as a poster to make such a statement. The best fighters Tyson beat in their prime were Ruddock and Tucker. Ruddock was a one armed brawler, Tucker was very good but turned into a junkie before reaching any potential. Nothing compared to Fury.

Fury is the best fighter of his era and incredibly skilled and unique for a 6'9 270lber, we'll never see another heavyweight who has that kind of footwork and upperbody movement at that massive size.
- -This U application to train that massive size?
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Fury be an easy UD...once he got past 2-3 rounds, Tyson would look for a way out.
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