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Old 02-20-2020, 08:57 AM #61
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floyd was a stylistic bad match up for canelo....floyd literally does every thing he does well better


he was never going to be "ready" because he isnt the type of fighter to trouble floyd.


as far as logic...news flash a 126 pounder with 60 fights at age 29, many fight of the year candidates is not prime...

same as a 23 year old with damn near 50 fights isnt "green"


nice excuse though


you ever heard of context?
Context? The 29 year old fighter after his defeat TKOs' a very high regarded Paulie Ayala, and defeated Erik Morales once again to become a P4P till his consecutive losses to ATG's in Marquez and Manny Pacquiao.

That is the context you want to ignore. And also, should we apply that logic to Manny Pacquiao by the time he was 29? Or does it only apply to Barrera only? Because Pacquiao also had TKO losses, beatings, and schoolings that he endured by the time he was 29, more war torn than Barrera actually, or does it only apply to Barrera?

Also, another context, after draining Canelo to 152, Canelo never fought at 154 again.
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:14 AM #62
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Context? The 29 year old fighter after his defeat TKOs' a very high regarded Paulie Ayala, and defeated Erik Morales once again to become a P4P till his consecutive losses to ATG's in Marquez and Manny Pacquiao.

That is the context you want to ignore. And also, should we apply that logic to Manny Pacquiao by the time he was 29? Or does it only apply to Barrera only? Because Pacquiao also had TKO losses, beatings, and schoolings that he endured by the time he was 29, more war torn than Barrera actually, or does it only apply to Barrera?

Also, another context, after draining Canelo to 152, Canelo never fought at 154 again.
he still was the not the very best barrera....sure ayala was highly regarded yet undersized, a career bantamweight who got razin thin nods over Tapia....was he a top featherweight when he fought barrera, absolutely not.....


again genius...each fighters prime is not the same....you have to take into account the fights theyve had, damage age wear and tear



just admit you have an agenda and no idea what a fighters prime is...probably didnt even watch the fights or fighters you mentioned.. a fighter isnt "prime" because they can still win fights..smgdh...moving on
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:16 AM #63
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Canelo didnt fight as an amateur. Floyd himself had about 90 amateur fights. So Canelos 43 fights were more similar to an amateur record.

And if you think a 22 year old isnt green you're just a fanboy.
22 is as green as you can get. Just look at all the 22 year old boxers in history
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:18 AM #64
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Definitely wasnt green how can you have 43 fights and still be green
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:22 AM #65
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Definitely wasnt green how can you have 43 fights and still be green
And a unified champion, with wins over 6 former champions....all that means nothing, because he fought mayweather....he had to be too old...too young...to short..small...always an excuse
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:29 AM #66
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Ok so Canelo wasn't completely green. How about half ripe.

Whats the excuse for all of the slow, flat footed, come forward fighters with no reach, and all the seniors tour geriatrics
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And a unified champion, with wins over 6 former champions....all that means nothing, because he fought mayweather....he had to be too old...too young...to short..small...always an excuse
Put it this way, you put the exact same Mawyweather that fought Canelo back then and put him in the ring with the current, roided ginger and the outcome will be exactly the same. Mayweather would box his head off again, simply too good for Canelo, no shame in Canelo or his fans admitting that
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:49 AM #68
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Canelo has continued to improve and grow. He was not green when he fought Floyd.

Still Canelo's style is not a good match up when he faces someone like Floyd. He tried to outbox the master boxer.

Most fighters that have boxing skills go to distance against Canelo. Trout, Mosley, Cotto, Jacobs and Lara have made it to the 12th round and some had success in the fight.

Canelo's legs are his weakest point so somebody that moves well will always give him more work to catch up to.
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:52 AM #69
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Put it this way, you put the exact same Mawyweather that fought Canelo back then and put him in the ring with the current, roided ginger and the outcome will be exactly the same. Mayweather would box his head off again, simply too good for Canelo, no shame in Canelo or his fans admitting that
they wont admit that...canelo isnt much different than from then as a fighter, he has matured physically, added some moves and knows he has to be more aggressive more often, he is in his prime now but in no time in his career do i see him beating mayweather even a 35 year old version
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floyd fanboys trying to revision history lol pathetic.

Canelo was so green at that point in time he was flatfooted
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