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Old 12-31-2019, 07:24 AM #51
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They shouldn't have invented this concept to begin with. It's an utterly horrible idea.
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Old 12-31-2019, 07:33 AM #52
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There is no requirement that a franchise title holder should fight in multiple divisions.

What lie did Loma tell to the WBC?

He didn't even ask to be made franchise champion, it was Arum who did that.
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Yeah, I hadn't heard anything about having to fight in multiple divisions either?
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Sulaiman cited Canelo being a multi division title holder as one reason for honouring him with a franchise title, but nothing about it being a requirement.

He also said that holding a franchise title would make it easier for a WBC champion to get big fights in other divisions, though how that would work isn't clear to me, unless he was referring to not having to fight mandatories .
"Saul will be distinguished as a franchise boxer [with the WBC], and those are the fighters who compete in different divisions," said Sulaiman.
https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...ck-160--145475

That's why he said a franchise tag for Wilder wouldn't make sense
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Old 12-31-2019, 07:35 AM #53
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When he asked the WBC for the duck Haney belt he said he's going to campaign at 130 to go for undisputed after the Teofimo fight. One requirement of the duck belt is fighting in multiple weight classes. Now he's talking wanting to fight Gervonta after Teofimo. So he's not going to campaign in multiple weight classes anytime soon. They should strip him for lying in order to avoid Haney.
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Old 12-31-2019, 08:54 AM #54
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OK so what?? Arum isn't Lomochenko.
Arum is Lomachenko's promoter.
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Old 12-31-2019, 09:11 AM #55
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"Saul will be distinguished as a franchise boxer [with the WBC], and those are the fighters who compete in different divisions," said Sulaiman.
https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...ck-160--145475

That's why he said a franchise tag for Wilder wouldn't make sense
Sulaiman isn't saying the franchise title is only for boxers who compete in different divisions in that quote and he didn't say a franchise title for Wilder wouldn't make sense. When he was asked about Wilder he said that any WBC champion could become a franchise champion if a majority of the WBC vote for it.

He said the franchise title is to make easier for WBC champions to fight in other divisions or to fight for titles with other organisations.

The reason he gave for "elevating" Loma was that it would make it easier for him to fight the winner of Lopez/Commey for the undisputed LW crown. Nothing about Loma wanting to fight in another division.


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Old 01-02-2020, 02:30 AM #56
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Arum is Lomachenko's promoter.
OK so like I said Arum isn't Lomo. Lomo didn't ask for the belt and Lomo didn't ask Arum to get the belt for him. I think everyone agrees that the franchise belt is a joke.
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Old 01-02-2020, 03:06 AM #57
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They shouldn't have invented this concept to begin with. It's an utterly horrible idea.
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Old 01-02-2020, 03:09 AM #58
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When he asked the WBC for the duck Haney belt he said he's going to campaign at 130 to go for undisputed after the Teofimo fight. One requirement of the duck belt is fighting in multiple weight classes. Now he's talking wanting to fight Gervonta after Teofimo. So he's not going to campaign in multiple weight classes anytime soon. They should strip him for lying in order to avoid Haney.
Dude that's a pretty negative way to look at what Loma is doing.
Haney ain't even fighting anytime soon so how can Loma be ducking a man that is injured.
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Old 01-02-2020, 04:25 AM #59
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I say WBC should dissolve the Franchise status and order their middleweight and light weight champions to fight Canelo and Loma or the titles would be taken away from them and return to the rightful owners...
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:37 AM #60
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Dude that's a pretty negative way to look at what Loma is doing.
Haney ain't even fighting anytime soon so how can Loma be ducking a man that is injured.
Haney got injured fighting a man he wouldn't have fought if Lomachenko didn't ask for the duck belt. Haney was injured in his first WBC title defense after Lomachenko vacated the belt
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