If Golovkin beats Canelo will he be an all time great? If he loses to Canelo will he be one?
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Will Golovkin retire as an all time great?
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It depends on your own personal criteria of all-time great. Mine is strict. Now, let's say he gets passed Canelo as the odds makers think he will, he'll have a divisional record of 21 defenses and I think would be favored to gobble up Charlo and probably beat the winners of Jacobs-Dereyvchenko & Andrade-Saunders he'd have the potential to even hold most successful defenses across any weight class I think that would qualify him but doesn't mean he's a surefire ATG.
IMO he'll lose by GBP decision to Canelo and then it's an uphill battle because the opposition isn't there and he's already peaked so I'll say no but he'll be in the IBHOF for certain.
My personal references going off modern era just using a dozen retired names.
ATG's - Jones, Marquez, Hopkins, Mayweather
Great fighters - Toney, Morales, Barrera, Calzaghe
Not quite great but very, very, very good - De La Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Wladimir Klit
There's probably around 75-80 fighters I'd consider all-time greats in the entire HISTORY of the sport.
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Originally posted by chrisJS View PostIt depends on your own personal criteria of all-time great. Mine is strict. Now, let's say he gets passed Canelo as the odds makers think he will, he'll have a divisional record of 21 defenses and I think would be favored to gobble up Charlo and probably beat the winners of Jacobs-Dereyvchenko & Andrade-Saunders he'd have the potential to even hold most successful defenses across any weight class I think that would qualify him but doesn't mean he's a surefire ATG.
IMO he'll lose by GBP decision to Canelo and then it's an uphill battle because the opposition isn't there and he's already peaked so I'll say no but he'll be in the IBHOF for certain.
My personal references going off modern era just using a dozen retired names.
ATG's - Jones, Marquez, Hopkins, Mayweather
Great fighters - Toney, Morales, Barrera, Calzaghe
Not quite great but very, very, very good - De La Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Wladimir Klit
There's probably around 75-80 fighters I'd consider all-time greats in the entire HISTORY of the sport.
I consider Toney, ODLH, Wlad, Barrera, Morales all ATG.
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I already consider him one of the all time greats at middleweight, but let's say he hypothetically beats Canelo, then Saunders, then Jacobs to unify all the belts.
Then he's got an argument for top 5 ever.
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