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Old 01-17-2020, 06:09 PM #41
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I think fury can get a decision so don't need to necessarily go for ko. And if fury is to be dropped, just get dropped once
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Old 01-17-2020, 06:21 PM #42
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Old 01-17-2020, 06:27 PM #43
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I'm glad to hear how much training Fury is doing, therefore they'll be no excuses after the fight. This is prime Fury vs. prime Wilder. Both undefeated! In my Bart Scott voice, "Can't Wait!"
Totally agree with you on that, zero excuses, for me the Fury that fought Wilder the first time shouldn’t even be in the ring on that night, he was cherrypicked IMHO.

THIS fury!!! Has now had his tune ups, he is NOW fighting fit not just losing weight but fighting fit.

He has always been a confident guy even when he was down and out, but physically I have zero issues here.

Prime for prime in my opinion and whoever wins is the number one in the division.
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Old 01-17-2020, 06:29 PM #44
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Wilder did say fury had heavyweight power if i remember right?
Fury might be hardest hitter wilder fought.
Wilder sometimes exaggerates his opponents' virtues. He thinks iIt makes him a bigger fighter. Fury's KO power is very limited.
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Old 01-17-2020, 06:31 PM #45
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Totally agree with you on that, zero excuses, for me the Fury that fought Wilder the first time shouldn’t even be in the ring on that night, he was cherrypicked IMHO.

THIS fury!!! Has now had his tune ups, he is NOW fighting fit not just losing weight but fighting fit.

He has always been a confident guy even when he was down and out, but physically I have zero issues here.

Prime for prime in my opinion and whoever wins is the number one in the division.
Without a doubt!
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:15 PM #46
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Fury and his mind games; it only works on the weak. Only a fool would think Fury would risk it all banging with Wilder.
Not saying I believe anything Fury says, I don't, but he did bang with Wilder quite a bit in the first fight. Thing about Wilder's punches are that they are easy to read - you know when they are coming and where, and Fury was able to either roll with what Wilder was throwing or avoid them altogether in exchanges (things Breazeale and Ortiz don't have the talent to do - Ortiz relying more on his chin, but still slowwing down mid-fight enough to be a more stationary target like Fury was in the 12th).

It was only in the 12th where Fury tired that he didn't get out of the way or roll with a punch that stunned him and set him up for the subsequent 2 punches that put him down.

Question is - with better preparation this time, will he be more on the ball later in the fight and so still be alert enough to ride the punches like he did in the early rounds ? Also potentially be more accurate with his what he throws.

Wilder only wins if he can hit Fury clean, and Fury knows the solitary mistake he made in the 12th last time.

Its likely going to be a good fight, but I'm with the bookies in having Fury as the marginal favourite to not make a mistake this time.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:33 PM #47
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Fury will need to KO Wilder just to get a draw with that American home cooking.
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:25 PM #48
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Right, because in the first Ortiz fight, after almost getting knocked out at the end of round 7 the free 30 second break the ref gave him at the start of round 8 never happened...
Did Deontay get drop twice like Tyson vs. Luis Ortiz? NY has its safety protocols for potential concussions during combat, you should look into that.
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Still can't cope knowing Wilder lost that fight that you are still riding this excuse? Should I take a professional like Reiss serious or some fanboy who can't cope with the fact Wilder was lucky to get a draw. Not a hard decision at all is it.
Jack Reiss is a horrible ref, he has a history of contraversy.

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Give it up man. Just accept the fact that Wilder couldn't finish the job. It was a heavyweight world title fight, no way would they stop the fight if either guy went down and was able to get up and look steady before the 10 count.
Tyson was not on steady legs, he held Reiss to balance himself; Reiss noticed this and gave him a sobriety test in the middle of a fight.
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Yeah? Why not? Any evidence or are you feeling abit paranoid? How about this, if Wilder had boxed Furys ears off and everyone thought he'd won almost every round he didn't get knocked down, and he'd gone on to only draw on the scorecards, would that have given you better conspiracy theory material?
Judge Phil Edwards of the UK scored Wilder-Fury a draw. Ten rounds my ass!
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and if the judges was not in showtime and PBC pockets fury would have won a decision ....wilder was clearly outboxed for 10 rounds out of 12....fact
Phil Edwards had Tyson up on his score going into the 12, so he ( Edward ) must of predicted a 10-8 round in the final round to 'rob' Tyson? Without the knockdown Phooey wins.

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Old 01-17-2020, 10:34 PM #49
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The best thing Fury did in the First fight was all the times he held Wilder and leaned his body weight on him. Because it stopped Wilder from punching him once he got in range, it allowed Fury to rest, and he made Wilder carry his weight. To me that was the key to the fight along with Wilder not knowing how to counter that strategy. Wilder should have been working on his inside and body punching. Because Fury will move at long range and hold up close. If Wilder can’t fight on the inside he’s going to lose a lot of rounds to Fury again.
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