Is The "Deep State / New World Order" Real Or A "Fake" Conspiracy?

[A-Wolf]

What's your take? (poll)

Please back it up with some sort of argument or reasoning if possible.

[SuperSuperLeeds]

Common sense ******.

[A-Wolf]

Common sense ******.

Nice to meet you, Mr. ******. Explain.

[ShoulderRoll]

What's your take? (poll)

Please back it up with some sort of argument or reasoning if possible.

It's real.

Some sources for you to consider and investigate further:

1. Georgetown professor Carroll Quigley gave us one piece of the puzzle by connecting Cecil Rhodes (funded by Nathan Rothschild)... to Lord Alfred Milner...to "Milner's kindergarten" and the Round Table groups...to the creation of the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations.

2. That's just one piece. There's also CIA director and WWII profiteer Allen Dulles and his connections to Wall Street power brokers. See the book "The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government" by David Talbot of Salon.com

3. Yet another piece was brought to light in the 1950's by the Reece Committe who investigated the activities of the large tax-exempt foundations created by the likes of the Rockefellers and Carnegies etc. Rene Wormser served as counsel to that committee, in his book "Foundations: Their Power and Influence" he talks about the power they wield...the interlocking group of men who run them...and the intense resistance they put up to being investigated by Congress.

[Gentblue]

It’s real regardless of social political ideology. Both sides can agree there’s a puppet master.

And it’s been made clear they didn’t want Trump or Bernie to win.

[man down]

It’s real regardless of social political ideology. Both sides can agree there’s a puppet master.

And it’s been made clear they didn’t want Trump or Bernie to win.

I agree, don't want to rock the system.

It's a shame that people can't look at how easy Clinton got off and what trump is going through and not realize this.

[Gentblue]

I agree, don't want to rock the system.

It's a shame that people can't look at how easy Clinton got off and what trump is going through and not realize this.

People will put up with corruption as long as it doesn’t impact them directly. Cleaning the system will affect the people in the short term but the long term is beneficial ie they want too be happy now and put the problems off for the next generation to solve.

[Beercules]

I do believe there is some group in charge of certain things.

[A-Wolf]

Came across this. Strange thing guys.. Aren't these different networks supposed to be competitors? NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox.

Somehow all their teleprompters say the same thing.

[man down]

People will put up with corruption as long as it doesn’t impact them directly. Cleaning the system will affect the people in the short term but the long term is beneficial ie they want too be happy now and put the problems off for the next generation to solve.

Very true.