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  • How Did You Score It RBR: Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Trinidad

    Sept. 18, 1999
    Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, NV
    Promoter: Top Rank/Bob Arum

    http://boxrec.com/en/event/8818

    The Main Event:

    "The Golden Boy" Oscar De La Hoya
    (26yrs, 31-0, 25KO's, 147lbs)

    vs

    Felix "Tito" Trinidad
    (26yrs, 35-0, 30KO's, 147lbs)



    Ring walks are starting at the beginning of the video. Opening bell rings around 15:30 minutes in.

    Feel free to copy/paste the scorecard below to score the fight rbr as you watch it.

    Round 1:
    Round 2:
    Round 3:
    Round 4:
    Round 5:
    Round 6:
    Round 7:
    Round 8:
    Round 9:
    Round 10:
    Round 11:
    Round 12:

    Official Scorecards:

    Jerry Roth FT 115-113
    Bob Logist FT 115-114
    Glen Hamada EVEN 114-114

    Random Fact: The referee of De La Hoya vs Trinidad, the promising Mitch Halpern, committed suicide 11 months after this fight.

    The Undercard:

    Vassiliy Jirov (25yrs, 21-0, 19KO's, 188lbs) KO10 Dale Brown (27yrs, 19-0-1, 14KO's, 188lbs)

    Johnny Nelson (32yrs, 34-12-1, 24KO's, 190lbs) W12 Sione Asipeli (25yrs, 15-1-2, 7KOs, 190lbs)

    Eric Morel (23yrs, 22-0, 16KO's, 115lbs) W12 Miguel Granados (26yrs, 19-8-1, 8KO's, 115lbs)

    Tony Marshall (28yrs, 32-7-6, 12KO's, 151lbs) W8 Verdell Smith (35yrs, 39-31-2, 15KO's, 154lbs)

    Mia St John (32yrs, 12-0, 7KO's, 125lbs) KO4 Kelley Downey (26yrs, 3-1, 3KO's, 126lbs)

    Eric "Butterbean" Esch (33yrs, 48-1-2, 37KO's, 320lbs) KO2 Kenny Craven (28yrs, 12-5, 11KO's, 210 1/2lbs)

    Random Fact: Esch & Craven would fight 3 more times with Craven coming out on top in 2 of the 3 fights & ending their rivalry equally at 2 wins each.
    Last edited by Eff Pandas; 10-02-2018, 03:22 AM.

  • #2
    My Scorecard:

    Round 1: Even 10-10, Even 10-10, OD running/avoiding the fight for too much of this rd for my liking, but he did land the better punches, but FT was doing more work overall, even rd for me

    Round 2: FT 10-9, FT 20-19, FT landing the bigger shots, OD jabbing effectively, but still doing a lot of running for much of the rd

    Round 3: OD 10-9, Even 29-29, OD moving a lot still, but landing some really good punches in this rd unlike the first two rds.

    Round 4: FT 10-9, FT 39-38, close rd, but I think FT edged it on effective aggression & landing the better punches

    Round 5: OD 10-9, Even 48-48, Nice rd by OD, staying close when things were going well & did some minor clock milking when he had FT unsure, also seemed to stun FT slightly towards the end of the rd

    Round 6: OD 10-9, OD 58-57, close-ish rd early, but OD looked really good in the last minute or so to claim the rd on my card

    Round 7: OD 10-9, OD 68-66, OD doing a lot of running, but he's making FT miss so much while landing enough himself takes this rd

    Round 8: OD 10-9, OD 78-75, FT landed the best punch of this rd, but OD much more effective overall in this rd

    Round 9: FT 10-9, OD 87-85, close-ish where both guys had some moments, but with all the running by OD, the aggression of FT stands out more

    Round 10: FT 10-9, OD 96-95, OD did lil in the first 2mins of this rd so he basically conceded this rd as I saw it

    Round 11: FT 10-9, Event 105-105, OD landing some nice jabs, but doing far too much running & FT landing the better, harder shots overall

    Round 12: FT 10-9, FT 115-114, OD basically conceded this rd by running for almost the full first half of the rd, FT landed some good hard shots in the first minute that one could argue locked up the rd for him

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    • #3
      I believe I scored the fourth, fifth round and everything from the ninth to the end of the fight for Tito so six rounds. I gave De La Hoya the first three and everything from six through eight so six rounds.

      114-114 even. I've never seen the "robbery". It was very close and De La Hoya ran too much even when he was trying to score points. I think he looked the better fighter for a spell in the fight and Tito looked the hungrier and a draw sounds about right on the action but Tito deserved the W or Oscar deserved the L because of the disgraceful running down the stretch. He felt a shot he didn't like in I believe the 8th or 9th and that made his mind up of taking his chances on the cards.

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      • #4
        Oscar won. The fight was not good enough to watch again.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
          I believe I scored the fourth, fifth round and everything from the ninth to the end of the fight for Tito so six rounds. I gave De La Hoya the first three and everything from six through eight so six rounds.

          114-114 even. I've never seen the "robbery". It was very close and De La Hoya ran too much even when he was trying to score points. I think he looked the better fighter for a spell in the fight and Tito looked the hungrier and a draw sounds about right on the action but Tito deserved the W or Oscar deserved the L because of the disgraceful running down the stretch. He felt a shot he didn't like in I believe the 8th or 9th and that made his mind up of taking his chances on the cards.
          Yea I tend to agree with you more or less here. The rounds Oscar won he won much more clearly then Tito won his rounds so I understand people feeling like Oscar deserved it more, but the 10 point must system says you get 10-9 for a clearly won round or a closely won round (which I actually disagree with, but thats how you score a professional boxing match in our era).

          But yea it was a close fight & there wouldn't of been a robbery here however the decision woulda went based on what I watched.

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          • #6
            I remember like it was yesterday, I had it an even 114-114 draw but had a feeling it would go Tito's way

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            • #7
              The referee committed suicide? Maybe the judges should have after that decision.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
                The referee committed suicide? Maybe the judges should have after that decision.
                LOL.

                And it was quite awhile later. Oddly enough it was a week after he ref'd a fixed fight (Richie Melito KO1 Thomas Williams, current LHW contender Thomas Williams Jr's dad) & DQ'd Rosendo Alvarez for low blows only he saw. Don't think those things are related doe. Mitch had some demons apparently.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
                  The referee committed suicide? Maybe the judges should have after that decision.
                  Halpern right?

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                  • #10
                    I remember I had Oscar looking great for most of the fight, then freaking out and screaming for him to do something the last 3 rounds or so.

                    Won't watch it again to give a scorecard. Believe it or not I'm still too angry to see that fight for a 2nd time. Haven't seen it again.

                    I remember the night so well. The nerves, the anxiety the agony of watching your favorite boxer lose his 0.

                    Gotta love boxing.

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