They didn't want Ward. They pretty much said that they weren't interested at that time but kinda put out the 164 'offer' which wasn't actually an offer as a fig leaf. You can argue over their reasons - call it cowardice, risk-reward or simply preferring to pursue the WBC mandate but they didn't want the fight.
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Loeffler wasn't sure Ward could make 168. So why did he mention 164?
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Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostThey didn't want Ward. They pretty much said that they weren't interested at that time but kinda put out the 164 'offer' which wasn't actually an offer as a fig leaf. You can argue over their reasons - call it cowardice, risk-reward or simply preferring to pursue the WBC mandate but they didn't want the fight.
If Golovkin and his team had known that Canelo was going to beat Cotto, then relinquish his title to avoid GGG, and that BJS and Jacobs were going to price themselves out of fighting him, they might have taken up Ward's offer. Nobody can see into the future though.
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Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts View PostMuch better draw? Ward and Golovkin get around the same purses, there's no A-side in that fight. You can dream Golovkin will become a draw in the UK but that isn't happening, only fights involving UK fighters are draws in the UK.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostNo fighter is going to move up to a higher division when there are bigger fights available in his own. Unless he has weight problems, of course.
If Golovkin and his team had known that Canelo was going to beat Cotto, then relinquish his title to avoid GGG, and that BJS and Jacobs were going to price themselves out of fighting him, they might have taken up Ward's offer. Nobody can see into the future though.Last edited by Citizen Koba; 07-27-2016, 01:53 PM.
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Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostThat's roughly my take. Hindsight's a wonderful thing, but at the time of 164gate and the Ward offer they were mandated to fight the Cotto - Canelo winner and it's a no brainer - a much easier fight for far more money. I guess folk can call that cowardice if that's the way they roll, but given the way things stood at the time it makes sense to me.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostNo fighter is going to move up to a higher division when there are bigger fights available in his own. Unless he has weight problems, of course.
If Golovkin and his team had known that Canelo was going to beat Cotto, then relinquish his title to avoid GGG, and that BJS and Jacobs were going to price themselves out of fighting him, they might have taken up Ward's offer. Nobody can see into the future though.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostRead the first tweet. Nes said Ward is a sure thing and he can't count on the winner of Cotto or Canelo. Most people with common sense at the time knew the winner wasn't going to fight GGG. And we were right. Why couldn't K2 and Loeffler see that?
My belief is that Ward can't make 168. If he could, he'd be fighting there, not at 175.
Cotto was never going to fight GGG, but most people thought that Canelo would fight him if he beat Cotto. That's why everybody was so shocked when he handed his belt over without a fight. Remember that?
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Originally posted by kafkod View Post"Nes said" Lol. Who the fuck is Nes?
Originally posted by kafkod View PostMy belief is that Ward can't make 168. If he could, he'd be fighting there, not at 175.
Originally posted by kafkod View PostCotto was never going to fight GGG, but most people thought that Canelo would fight him if he beat Cotto. That's why everybody was so shocked when he handed his belt over without a fight. Remember that?
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