Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Oh dear. Go and believe some wildly ridiculous conspiracy theory, you needle-dicked fruitbat.

And what the heck do you call what Hawkings is pushing?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I think people like the idea of there being no creator, no rules, etc.

It serves their hearts desire to be wicked.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Don’t talk to aliens, warns Stephen HawkingJonathan Leake THE aliens are out there and Earth had better watch out, at least according to Stephen Hawking. He has suggested that extraterrestrials are almost certain to exist — but that instead of seeking them out, humanity should be doing all it that can to avoid any contact.

The suggestions come in a new documentary series in which Hawking, one of the world’s leading scientists, will set out his latest thinking on some of the universe’s greatest mysteries.

Alien life, he will suggest, is almost certain to exist in many other parts of the universe: not just in planets, but perhaps in the centre of stars or even floating in interplanetary space.

Hawking’s logic on aliens is, for him, unusually simple. The universe, he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth is unlikely to be the only planet where life has evolved.

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“To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational,” he said. “The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like.”

The answer, he suggests, is that most of it will be the equivalent of microbes or simple animals — the sort of life that has dominated Earth for most of its history.

One scene in his documentary for the Discovery Channel shows herds of two-legged herbivores browsing on an alien cliff-face where they are picked off by flying, yellow lizard-like predators. Another shows glowing fluorescent aquatic animals forming vast shoals in the oceans thought to underlie the thick ice coating Europa, one of the moons of Jupiter.

Such scenes are speculative, but Hawking uses them to lead on to a serious point: that a few life forms could be intelligent and pose a threat. Hawking believes that contact with such a species could be devastating for humanity.

He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and then move on: “We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.”

He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is “a little too risky”. He said: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”

The completion of the documentary marks a triumph for Hawking, now 68, who is paralysed by motor neurone disease and has very limited powers of communication. The project took him and his producers three years, during which he insisted on rewriting large chunks of the script and checking the filming.

John Smithson, executive producer for Discovery, said: “He wanted to make a programme that was entertaining for a general audience as well as scientific and that’s a tough job, given the complexity of the ideas involved.”

Hawking has suggested the possibility of alien life before but his views have been clarified by a series of scientific breakthroughs, such as the discovery, since 1995, of more than 450 planets orbiting distant stars, showing that planets are a common phenomenon.

So far, all the new planets found have been far larger than Earth, but only because the telescopes used to detect them are not sensitive enough to detect Earth-sized bodies at such distances.

Another breakthrough is the discovery that life on Earth has proven able to colonise its most extreme environments. If life can survive and evolve there, scientists reason, then perhaps nowhere is out of bounds.

Hawking’s belief in aliens places him in good scientific company. In his recent Wonders of the Solar System BBC series, Professor Brian Cox backed the idea, too, suggesting Mars, Europa and Titan, a moon of Saturn, as likely places to look.

Similarly, Lord Rees, the astronomer royal, warned in a lecture earlier this year that aliens might prove to be beyond human understanding.

“I suspect there could be life and intelligence out there in forms we can’t conceive,” he said. “Just as a chimpanzee can’t understand quantum theory, it could be there are aspects of reality that are beyond the capacity of our brains.”




All the Hawkings fans: You guys believe in Aliens too right?

[photomane]

Hawking is apparently an agnostic.

What you dont realize is agnostic is really atheist and atheist is santanic at its roots-marx and darwin are perfect examples. hawkings really is saying in a round about way hes satanic...

[Mud]

I think people like the idea of there being no creator, no rules, etc.

It serves their hearts desire to be wicked.

I think many non-religious people dont like the idea of there being an all powerful God who allows disease, famine, rape and murder to happen and sends people to eternal torture for not worshipping him.

Most decent people, God or no God follow their conscious and have a moral compass based on the golden rule. Treat others how u would want to be treated.

Religious belief can give way to extreme wickedness.
As can stupidity.

[squealpiggy]

And what the heck do you call what Hawkings is pushing?

Perhaps you would like to point out where the conspiracy is in Hawking's work.

What you dont realize is agnostic is really atheist and atheist is santanic at its roots-marx and darwin are perfect examples. hawkings really is saying in a round about way hes satanic...

[cupocity303]

And what the heck do you call what Hawkings is pushing?

You're an idiot.

What Hawkins is pushing is Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity (**** you probably aren't even curious enough to read about), trying to unify those two theories. Nothing conspiracy about it.

I'm a leyman when it comes to this but I'd much rather read about that, than live in Jesus fairytale world.

[Syf]

I think people like the idea of there being no creator, no rules, etc.

It serves their hearts desire to be wicked.

Spontaneous creation is the same as there being a God.

Only with spontaneous creation you don't give credit where credit is due. Typical arrogant, self centered, self serving, egotistical, know it all behaviour of the biggest slags of human kind.


As for Hawking.. I would contend he is bitter about his condition, hence cannot bring himself to believe in God. A shame, he is brilliant. A friend of mine that has massive health complications feels the same way. He's had to have a kidney transplant and he cannot bring himself to believe in God.

[cupocity303]

Spontaneous creation is the same as there being a God.

Only with spontaneous creation you don't give credit where credit is due. Typical arrogant, self centered, self serving, egotistical, know it all behaviour of the biggest slags of human kind.


As for Hawking.. I would contend he is bitter about his condition, hence cannot bring himself to believe in God. A shame, he is brilliant. A friend of mine that has massive health complications feels the same way. He's had to have a kidney transplant and he cannot bring himself to believe in God.

Considering the fact that Hawkins has not believed in a God prior to his condition, I say you're grasping at straws.

What Hawkins is doing is looking for an Answer. He puts 1 + 1 together and gets to a 2. 2 + 2 = 4 and so forth. He's been consistently working on Einstein's General Relativity and Quantum Physics (which would be 1 + 1 ) for decades now.

What he doesn't do is make up his own answer in advance (I.E. God or whatever) and selectively pick his equations as Confirmation Bias. Does he hypothesise? Sure, but that's different.

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