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Old 07-02-2018, 10:21 PM #71
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Yeah, but Cotto, Canelo and Oscar were huge draws in boxing so it was a sure thing they sell loads. It wasn't all on Floyd's back otherwise you'd show his PPV's for when he fought B level fighters and not the biggest draws in boxing.

What were the PPV's for Maidana, Ortiz, Guerrero and Berto?

ortiz 1.2 million
maidana 800k
guerrero 800k

joshua aint on that level


oscar never sold 2 million ppvs before or after he fought floyd.

canelo never sold 2 million ppv before or after he fought floyd.

cotto never sold 1 million ppv without pac or floyd on the bill.

floyd sold more tham 2 million without oscar and canelo. and he sold 1 million without cotto.


i hear people trying to give those guys ppv credit, but what are there numbers without floyd?

cotto was a big ticket seller, not a big ppv seller. he was averaging about 300k ppv's

same for canelo. canelo just sold his first 1 million ppv's in 2017
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:53 AM #72
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Joshua is not the A side champ. His titles are bogus. He's just th A side in the U.K.
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:54 AM #73
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ortiz 1.2 million
maidana 800k
guerrero 800k

joshua aint on that level


oscar never sold 2 million ppvs before or after he fought floyd.

canelo never sold 2 million ppv before or after he fought floyd.

cotto never sold 1 million ppv without pac or floyd on the bill.

floyd sold more tham 2 million without oscar and canelo. and he sold 1 million without cotto.


i hear people trying to give those guys ppv credit, but what are there numbers without floyd?

cotto was a big ticket seller, not a big ppv seller. he was averaging about 300k ppv's

same for canelo. canelo just sold his first 1 million ppv's in 2017
Why are people like this?

As soon as someone compare someone to Floyd they pull out this retard logic.

AJ might not be as big a star as Floyd yet, but the comparison makes sense.

FYI Joshua's last 3 fights have averaged more than a million homes on PPV.
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Old 07-03-2018, 10:08 AM #74
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AJ fights whoever they put infront of him while floyd cherry pick the weakest opponent or retire if there's no way to avoid the top prime opponent.
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Old 07-03-2018, 10:27 AM #75
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AJ fights whoever they put infront of him while floyd cherry pick the weakest opponent or retire if there's no way to avoid the top prime opponent.
Me thinks it's time to change the avy. It has no relevance, lmao.
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Old 07-03-2018, 11:29 AM #76
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Me thinks it's time to change the avy. It has no relevance, lmao.
Well Josh was paying wilder more than floyd ever payed his opponents.?
So nobody can defend wilder when he's only fought one decent opponent of late.
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:31 PM #77
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Joshua is not the A side champ. His titles are bogus. He's just th A side in the U.K.
When you have some ppv buy rates for wilder.. or maybe some revenue generation per event.. or hell.. him getting more than .5% of the biggest market for the sport to watch him on prime time non PPV then you can spout off about there even being a side in the USA.

You don't have any figures..facts or logic to discredit the argument of 1mil plus buyrates or 4 x the % of population viewership at post prime-time UK on PPV.. a market that according to you in the past.. isn't the current home of boxing.

You stick to your AJ is a coward thread.. you update it regularly and show a lot of heart and we all appreciate that. But leave the facts to the proper posters yeah? Because if you can't see that in every conceivable way in terms of drawpower.. revenue generation and ppv buys that AJ is the a-side.. you shouldn't even have an account here.
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:43 PM #78
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we need a sliding scale to measure a-side

if floyd was fighting wilder he would think, hhhmm, 2.5 mil top payday maybe, no ppv ever, hhhmmm, 40 fights one belt, hhhhmmm, 8 mil tops :-) with floyd making 60 mil, thats a-side
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:46 PM #79
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[B]So Wilder himself revealed why he didnt sign the contract
That's not true. Wilder revealed the reasons why he didn't like the offer. He was still going to sign anyway until Hearn said the fight wouldn't be next. Wilder was willing to cave on all of those points as long as the fight was next. Since Hearn didn't keep his word about the fight being next, Wilder is no longer willing to accept the terms he didn't like to begin with.
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im saying what was the number that floyd turned down?

if you dont know, then say that
How the hell would anyone know the correct amount if they never fought each other in their prime? No one knows how much until everything is added up at the end. But what I do know is that it would have been the biggest grossing fight in history. So yeah, Floyd turned down the biggest payday in history. They're just the facts. If not, tell me which fight either drew bigger money or would have?
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