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TBE took Manny Pacquiaos soul, courage and heart. TBE ended Mannys career

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  • Margarito ended pac's prime and took a lot out of Pac. Floyd didnt land a single meaningful power shog because he was fighting scared.

    Pac most likely had tougher spars than the mayweather fight

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    • Mayweather waited til Pacquiao was way past his prime, he gets no credit for it.

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      • Originally posted by atomicsad View Post
        Mayweather waited til Pacquiao was way past his prime, he gets no credit for it.
        Not how I remember it. Floyd attempted to fight Manny in 2009. Even offered him a 50/50 split.


        Manny refused to fight over drug testing.



        No one knew it at the time and blamed Mayweather, however back in 2016 Manny admitted he used PEDS early in his career.



        Obvious Manny is a liar and a cheat. Floyd tried to make the fight. Top Rank declined.
        Last edited by Dosumpthin; 08-15-2017, 06:31 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
          Not how I remember it. Floyd attempted to fight Manny in 2009. Even offered him a 50/50 split.


          Manny refused to fight over drug testing.



          No one knew it at the time and blamed Mayweather, however back in 2016 Manny admitted he used PEDS early in his career.



          Obvious Manny is a liar and a cheat. Floyd tried to make the fight. Top Rank declined.
          In 2009 they attempted to fight. Floyd conceded up to 7 day cut off initially, Pac wanted 30. I believe Floyd went up to 14 (if pac answered by end of the week, Pac said okay but a couple days too "late" so Floyd moved on....

          not exactly refusing. you have some creative revisionist memory though. Floyd requested an unprecedented request to roadblock. Pac was happy to use that to not make the fight as they weren't quite ready to cash it in. Floyd never seriously tried for 4 more years after Manny got KTFO and aged quite a bit.

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          • Originally posted by madsweeney View Post
            In 2009 they attempted to fight. Floyd conceded up to 7 day cut off initially, Pac wanted 30. I believe Floyd went up to 14 (if pac answered by end of the week, Pac said okay but a couple days too "late" so Floyd moved on....

            not exactly refusing. you have some creative revisionist memory though. Floyd requested an unprecedented request to roadblock. Pac was happy to use that to not make the fight as they weren't quite ready to cash it in. Floyd never seriously tried for 4 more years after Manny got KTFO and aged quite a bit.

            In other words you are an idiot and have no idea what you are talking about.

            You aren't the first pact@rd who believes in this reverse psychology negotiation conspiracy and probably won't be the last.

            Nevertheless, no matter how backwards your logic may be, the fact is Manny killed the fight over the same drug test he eventually agreed upon once he was clean.

            The end.

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