Jack Dempsey GOAT

[Kinetic Linking]

cleaned out the heavyweight division fighting at 180 during the golden age of boxing. With mostly first round knockouts. GOAT.

[mickey malone]

cleaned out the heavyweight division fighting at 180 during the golden age of boxing. With mostly first round knockouts. GOAT.

He beats...

Fitzsimmons
L.Sullivan
Corbett
Jeffries
Braddock
Johnson
Sharkey
Schmelling
Baer
Carnero
Patterson
Johanson
Dokes
Weaver
Tubbs
Page
Ruiz
Byrd
Rahman
Chagaev
Roy Jones

Loses to


Louis
Ali
Klits
Frazier
Foreman
Holmes
Lewis
Tyson
Holyfield
Bowe
Marciano (so so close)

Anyway you can see the pattern..

50/50 matches..

Vs Bruno, Walcott, Liston, Norton, Charles, McCall, Mercer..

[TheGreatA]

Should've gotten the shot at Willard instead of Dempsey.

Number 1 contender for Dempsey's title for 6 years.

[Southpaw Stinger]

Should've gotten the shot at Willard instead of Dempsey.

Number 1 contender for Dempsey's title for 6 years.

Blame Kearns and Rickard for that, not Dempsey.

I think as time has underated Dempsey's opponents it has overated Wills.

[Spartacus Sully]

Good boxer

dirty. beat sharkey on a nice combo of 4 nut punches and a left hook and all the time shots after the bell.

id rate him at about 5 heavy weights 13 all time

[d0n]

He beats...


Loses to


Louis
Ali
Klits
Frazier
Foreman
Holmes
Lewis
Tyson
Holyfield
Bowe
Marciano (so so close)



Vs Bruno, Walcott, Liston, Norton, Charles, McCall, Mercer..

I have to disagree man. Jack Dempsey is one of the greatest fighters ever. Beat both the 1st and 2nd in the heavyweight devision by 1st round KO to get a shot at the title. Was knocked out ONCE...he hadn't eaten in four days...

TOP3 HEAVYWEIGHTS are Joe Louis, Muhammid Ali and Jack Dempsey.

Ps. this is not including John L. Sullivan, but there is no real record or proof of his brilliance.

[TheGreatA]

Blame Kearns and Rickard for that, not Dempsey.

I think as time has underated Dempsey's opponents it has overated Wills.

Not even Wills blamed Dempsey. But it's impossible to call a man the greatest who supposedly "cleaned out the division" if he never even faced his number 1 contender for 6 years.

The opposition Wills fought is still underrated. No one ranks him close to top 10 even though he could arguably belong there based on his resume.

Wins over

Sam Langford
Joe Jeannette
Sam McVea
Kid Norfolk
Jeff Clark
Fred Fulton
Luis Firpo
Charley Weinert
Willie Meehan
Tut Jackson

against

Wins over

Jack Sharkey
Jess Willard
Tommy Gibbons
Billy Miske
Fred Fulton
Luis Firpo
Georges Carpentier
Bill Brennan
Battling Levinsky

[Sugarj]

Love the guy, hes a legend. But flawed!

Not the greatest of all time, not in legacy and unlikely in terms of physical attributes.

'The Golden Age of Boxing' is an expression that is bandied about. But frankly Jack only defended his title a mere five or six times in seven years (POOR), and none of his contenders were beat in the first round!

He didn't defend against Wills and drew the colour line.

With a few exceptions on both lists, Mickey's list isn't far from where I stand too. Good, pretty comprehensive and well thought out.

I'd have to draw up my own ATG heavyweight top 20 to see where I place him, despite what I've said I'm very much a fan of Dempsey. I just think that there are more deserving candidates for GOAT.

[d0n]

1st HEAVYWEIGHT contender : 18 seconds
2nd HEAVYWEIGHT contender: 14 seconds

Willard beat JACK JOHNSON! He had killed a man. He was 6ft6. Dempsey broke his jaw in 7 places...Also kcocked him down 7 times in the first round.

[1SILVA]

cleaned out the heavyweight division fighting at 180 during the golden age of boxing. With mostly first round knockouts. GOAT.

You cannot be the greatest of all time when you duck your most dangerous opponent and not defend the title for several years.