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  • #31
    Andre Ward is actually the lineal welterweight champion as well.

    Felix Trinidad was the lineal champion in 1999. He moved up but you can never lose your title unless you lose it in the ring.

    Trinidad lost to Hopkins who lost to Taylor who lost to Pavlik who lost to Hopkins who lost to Dawson who lost to Ward.


    Andre Ward is actually the current lineal champion in 3 weight divisions.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
      Pretty immature response when you have no reasonable basis against my factual claims that Ward is the lineal LHW champion so have to resort to mockery because you don't like having to think about a potential messy situation.

      It is not as if I even created it, blame the ABC organizations and other bodies who designate champions just because they have a fanbase.

      Until there is some singular authority in boxing respected by all which states in writing that uttering the magical R word means you relinquish any lineal claims, that is all just opinion and assumption.

      Andre Ward SMW and LHW champion, deal
      How the hell is Andre Ward the Super Middleweight Champion????!??!

      Joe Calzaghe is the Super Middleweight Champion. Is he not?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by PBP View Post
        Andre Ward is actually the lineal welterweight champion as well.

        Felix Trinidad was the lineal champion in 1999. He moved up but you can never lose your title unless you lose it in the ring.

        Trinidad lost to Hopkins who lost to Taylor who lost to Pavlik who lost to Hopkins who lost to Dawson who lost to Ward.


        Andre Ward is actually the current lineal champion in 3 weight divisions.
        Nah because those fights weren't at Welterweight.

        But, you have just made an amazing discovery....

        FELIX TRINIDAD IS THE LINEAL WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION!!!!!

        He never lost his lineage in the ring!!

        Just when you think Floyd has no fight for May 2014, guess what we discover?!

        May 2014, "Generation Vs Generation" "Lineage Vs Fake Lineage" "Welterweight Championship of the world!"

        FELIX TRINIDAD VS FLOYD MAYWEATHER!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
          Pretty immature response when you have no reasonable basis against my factual claims that Ward is the lineal LHW champion so have to resort to mockery because you don't like having to think about a potential messy situation.

          It is not as if I even created it, blame the ABC organizations and other bodies who designate champions just because they have a fanbase.

          Until there is some singular authority in boxing respected by all which states in writing that uttering the magical R word means you relinquish any lineal claims, that is all just opinion and assumption.

          Andre Ward SMW and LHW champion, deal
          Hold on, hold on, am I missing something?

          Are you implying that Darren Barker isn't the Lineal Champion at Middleweight?

          This is a serious question.

          Because by your logic and reasoning, Barker is definitely the Lineal Middleweight Champion at the moment.

          If Ward is the Lineal Champion at LHW, then Darren Barker is the Lineal Champion at Middleweight, isn't he?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            But does Sergio got those "Lineal Ladies?"

            No, he definitely doesn't. Why? Because he ain't never been the TRUE Lineal Champion like the Dazzler is at the moment.

            He might have had one of those fake ones like Stevenson has now at LHW but not the true one.

            !!!

            my f#cking neighbors just heard me laughing like a wildman.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by PBP View Post
              Andre Ward is actually the lineal welterweight champion as well.

              Felix Trinidad was the lineal champion in 1999. He moved up but you can never lose your title unless you lose it in the ring.

              Trinidad lost to Hopkins who lost to Taylor who lost to Pavlik who lost to Hopkins who lost to Dawson who lost to Ward.


              Andre Ward is actually the current lineal champion in 3 weight divisions.
              Wait a minute there....

              Winky Wright was lineal Junior Middleweight Champion and he never lost it at 154.

              He moved up to LHW and lost to Hopkins who lost to Taylor who lost to Pavlik who lost to Hopkins who lost to Dawson who Ward beat.

              Andre Ward is actually the current lineal champion in a whopping FOUR weight classes.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                How the hell is Andre Ward the Super Middleweight Champion????!??!

                Joe Calzaghe is the Super Middleweight Champion. Is he not?
                He is no longer an active fighter and has no plans to comeback.

                Look here Hatton/Floyd was not for the WW title because Floyd said he retired after De la Hoya at just after 3:00 into the vid so according to you, guess they have to change the record books.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                  He is no longer an active fighter and has no plans to comeback.

                  Look here Hatton/Floyd was not for the WW title because Floyd said he retired after De la Hoya at just after 3:00 into the vid so according to you, guess they have to change the record books.

                  How do you know he has no plans to comeback?

                  You have to lose your title in the ring. The magic "R" word means nothing.

                  What if he does come back? You said if a fighter fights again then they didn't retire.

                  Calzaghe could easily wake up any morning now and return to Boxing. Lineal Champ is back!

                  Ward is not the Lineal Champion at 168. By your own logic it is impossible for you to believe that.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    How do you know he has no plans to comeback?

                    You have to lose your title in the ring. The magic "R" word means nothing.

                    What if he does come back? You said if a fighter fights again then they didn't retire.

                    Calzaghe could easily wake up any morning now and return to Boxing. Lineal Champ is back!

                    Ward is not the Lineal Champion at 168. By your own logic it is impossible for you to believe that.
                    Yes, and we have to deal with that issue should that happen but Joe is as of a few years ago gone from 168 and boxing and with the new lineage established there is no dispute.

                    So what about Floyd if we go with your standard? so because he uttered the magic words he was no longer WW champ when he fought Hatton right?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      Wait a minute there....

                      Winky Wright was lineal Junior Middleweight Champion and he never lost it at 154.

                      He moved up to LHW and lost to Hopkins who lost to Taylor who lost to Pavlik who lost to Hopkins who lost to Dawson who Ward beat.

                      Andre Ward is actually the current lineal champion in a whopping FOUR weight classes.
                      Oh my goodness yet ANOTHER epic discovery!

                      Winky Wright is STILL the Lineal Champion at Jr Middleweight!

                      In the space of minutes Mayweather has TWO epic PPV blockbuster's for Lineal Belt's in two divisions.

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