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Old 06-14-2018, 02:10 PM #61
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Arch.....George's Jab in his prime was considered by some as the best since Joe Louis. Foremans stamina was not the issue...he would go all out to KO early and not pace himself. His Kos of Frazier and Norton were among the most frightening displays of punching power in boxing history. Foreman had the determination, will to win and killer instinct of an ATG. Tyson was another quitter. Great front runner but make him think, get him in a losing bout and he became a different fighter. Tentative and looking for the exit. Not tough mentally at all.
To quote Bert Sugar,

Foreman's jab was like "a two-by-four coming out of a basement window"
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:48 PM #62
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In his defense, it was a no-win situation for Mike. A lot of people thought George was old and would get killed.
True. In fact, he would then have been criticized for "avoiding" Razor Ruddock, who at the time was viewed as much more dangerous an opponent than old Foreman. In fact, Holyfield did get criticized for taking on Foreman rather than Ruddock.
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Irish , what I was saying about George being a shell of himself, mentally he was superior to the young fighter, but letís be honest he was always coming forward and stalking his opponents early on, he was feared, you canít say the guy that took on axel Shultz & Lou savarese would have knocked out Joe Frazier & Kenny Norton, I think George is a all time great, even though I would have loved to see Jerry Quarry style against George, for some reason they never got inside the ropes
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Old 06-17-2018, 03:10 AM #64
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True. In fact, he would then have been criticized for "avoiding" Razor Ruddock, who at the time was viewed as much more dangerous an opponent than old Foreman. In fact, Holyfield did get criticized for taking on Foreman rather than Ruddock.
It would have been a bad look for Mike, for sure.
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Old 06-21-2018, 04:30 PM #65
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Tyson ducked old George. After the Douglas loss anytime George got in front of a microphone he'd call out Tyson. Tyson wanted no part of it. The public wanted it, King wanted it, Tyson stormed off when offered it. Cus and Mike used to watch film of Frazier getting beat down by Foreman, analyzing that style, Cus himself told Mike that Foreman was suicide.

No disrespect to Mike, it is what it is
Were you in that room with Cus and Mike when they were watching Foreman film and discussing this?
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Old 06-21-2018, 04:33 PM #66
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Arch.....George's Jab in his prime was considered by some as the best since Joe Louis. Foremans stamina was not the issue...he would go all out to KO early and not pace himself. His Kos of Frazier and Norton were among the most frightening displays of punching power in boxing history. Foreman had the determination, will to win and killer instinct of an ATG. Tyson was another quitter. Great front runner but make him think, get him in a losing bout and he became a different fighter. Tentative and looking for the exit. Not tough mentally at all.
But Tyson had a tough childhood and that kid killed his favorite pigeon and women took advantage of him and lied about him raping them and the jewish managers took advantage of him and Don King robbed him and fired rooney and he didn't have the old team with him after Buster beating him and the count was long and it was all a sad thing against Mike and it's not fair.
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Old 06-22-2018, 12:21 AM #67
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But Tyson had a tough childhood and that kid killed his favorite pigeon and women took advantage of him and lied about him raping them and the jewish managers took advantage of him and Don King robbed him and fired rooney and he didn't have the old team with him after Buster beating him and the count was long and it was all a sad thing against Mike and it's not fair.
You forgot about Givens, how those guys treated him and his tigers for three movies straight, being forced to perform on Broadway, the damage he took from Ip Man
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Old 06-22-2018, 01:23 AM #68
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Foreman would be easy to find... I donít know if Mike could have hurt George enough to discourage big George.
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It’s a great to be overrated. U have achieved a level of appreciation beyond just ur ability. Things that make u the big attraction, the most entertaining, worth the money. Doesn’t mean ur the best, but people want u to be and will try to move the needle for you. Mikes famous head movement, jab, three punch combos, quick feet, only showed up against lesser opponents. Against the best he was a flat footed, two punch, clinch machine. Foreman beats him. I adore Mike.
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Foreman would be easy to find... I donít know if Mike could have hurt George enough to discourage big George.
Nobody really went to Foreman's body. Some big Tyson shots to the body would have tested him
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